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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:08:33 -0400
From: Ken Sallot <sallot@mi*.co*>
Organization: WKPP
To: Jammer Six <jammer@oz*.ne*>
CC: Cavers List <cavers@ca*.co*>, Tech List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Fatality at Die Polder III
Chief, I doubt there were any IANTD EANx Cave Students who died because
they didn't run a reel in the cave but I'm sure it's part of the
standards. 

If Tom can't get it through his head about proper bottle marking
REGARDLESS if the fatality was related to IANTD or not then he should be
hammered. If he keeps his head in the sand and the blinders on and only
makes standards changes based on IANTD fatalities then where is the
progress that may save lives?

We as "technical divers" (god I hate that term) need to be ADULT enough
to stand up and analyze ALL accidents, regardless of if they were
involved in our group of "friends", or not. If we do not, then we are
dooming ourselves to repeat history.

Ken

Jammer Six wrote:
> 
> > Bottle marking isn't one of them?  Of course it is.
> 
> Of course it is. Hang him for that.
> 
> But THESE bottles weren't marked by IANTD standards.
> 
> IANTD had nothing to do with this incident according to Tom Mount and Bill
> Mee.
> 
> An improperly marked bottle is not automatically an IANTD bottle.
> 
> I don't dispute that improper markings may have been what caused this
> fatality, I leave it to wiser heads than mine to determine that.
> 
> What I object to is going after Tom on this case, when we have so many,
> higher quality charges to level at him.
> 
> So hang him for marking bottles improperly, hang him for teaching improper
> marking techniques, but don't hang him for THIS bottle, or THIS accident.
> 
> Besides, if we hang Tom for this one, we might let the real culprit (TDI,
> PADI, the buddy, whoever) off the hook. Let's go hang HIM.
> 
> This one isn't on Tom, and I haven't seen anything that suggests it is,
> while I've seen several posts, some from WKPP, that point out it's NOT on
> Tom, or IANTD.
> 
> You guys are worse than a bunch of drunken cowboys with ropes and torches...
> 
> --
> "C'mon, you sons of bitches, you want to live forever?"
>      -First Sergeant Dan Daly

-- 
"What's terrible is to pretend that the second-rate
is first-rate."
                      -- Doris Lessing
                       (British writer)

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