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From: "Sean M. Cary" <SMCARY@MI*.CO*>
To: "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>, <velema@cu*.ne*>
Cc: "TECH LIST" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Cold Water Diving
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:37:32 -0400
99.9% of my regular customers will (thankfully) never Tech dive.  To sell
them all backplates and harness's would be extreme.  I use and dive a
Halcyon backplate and wing, wear a dangly and dive a long hose on every
dive. Students and others see this and ask why I do it, and I explain that
it is a carry over from my technical diving.  I have a ratio going of about
9 backplates to 1 bcd's sale...so I guess my wearing one is rubbing off.
But I sell the customer whatever they want, based upon the type of diving
they do.  Someone who will never venture past 60' is going to be fine in a
normal BC.   In the early 90's when I was wearing a Dacor Caribbean and Al
80's, diving in warm, relatively shallow waters, that was the best setup for
me.  Now that I do tech, I wear what I wear all the time, and never have to
change my config to meet the requirements.  The whole point of my post was
the nature of this list, and TheNerds comment that he doesn't have the cash
to do the dives properly...

And as I said before...If you can't afford to do the dives with the right
equipment...DON'T DO THEM.  All we have to do is apply Rule Number One...
I'd say we have more to worry about in the so called "tech" community then
the "rec" community.  I see far more strokery on the tech trips I go on,
then the rec trips I do each weekend.

My .02

Sean


-----Original Message-----
From: Paltz, Art <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
To: velema@cu*.ne* <velema@cu*.ne*>; Sean M. Cary <SMCARY@MI*.CO*>
Cc: TECH LIST <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 12:35 PM
Subject: RE: Cold Water Diving


>I agree, this would be great in a Utopian society!  At least by me, most
>of the instructors are associated with shops.  Most tend to push
>equipment sold by those shops.  This I think causes most instructors to
>push the stroke gear sold by the shops and we end up rec. divers that
>end up buying stroke gear (and being strokes).
>
>Now before the flames start, I'm not saying that this pushing of "stroke
>gear" is correct and not all instructors are associated with shops nor
>do all shops push stroke gear.
>
>Just a few pennies,
>Art. (think I used up my "Stroke" allotment for next month :-))
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robbert [mailto:velema@cu*.ne*]
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 7:09 PM
> To: Sean M. Cary
> Cc: TECH LIST
> Subject: Re: Cold Water Diving
>
> <<SNIP>>
>
> WHY??
> Wouldn't it be nice if  all REC-teachers would implement
>DIR into their teaching.
> My instructor does. And hopefully , in the future,
>others will too.
> You'll get better REC-divers and less bullshit. Even if
>your
> rec-students decide
> not to dive DIR, you would still have had the
>opportunity to make them
> think about it, and/or change their minds.
> I did.
>
> <<SNIP>>

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