Robert???? Did THAT really happen? Cough!!! Oh, I still have an OMS manifold for sale....Half price...Never been strewn about the hiway At 09:01 PM 4/11/99 -0500, Jess Armantrout wrote: >Well, Jim, good answer. It saved you a pounding. > >And now, for the rest of the story. > >(insert your own Paul Harvey voice here) > >Robert was a novice cave diver looking for experience. You see, in his home >state, cave diving was all but unheard of, and competent cave diving buddies >were hard to find. But as luck would have it, one day young Robert met up >with another cave diver and they began planning to make the 12 hour drive to >Mecca...Lake City, Florida. > >One the eve of the fateful trip the two adventurers began loading Robert's >plush conversion van. It was obvious that all of the gear for the odyssey >was not going to fit and the other diver offered to rent a U-haul trailer. >"No need", said the thrifty Robert "I have a trailer." Well now this wasn't >your ordinary trailer. No, this was a Sears fold up trailer made of sturdy >American made aluminum, complete with ten inch wheels and rated for 1000 >pounds! > >The trailer was quickly loaded with 2 sets of doubles, 8 stage bottles, 1 >scooter, 3 T cylinders of oxygen, 2 sets of miscellaneous dive gear and one >Nikonos V and strobe packed neatly in a nifty Pelican case. Now, as it >turned out, most of Robert's gear wound up in the van, and the other diver >was a little nervous about the capacity of the trailer. He suggested >ditching the van, loading the excess gear into his truck and following >Robert to Florida, but Robert insisted the little trailer could do the job. > >Off into the night our adventurers drove. The dawn found them well within >Florida and doing a comfortable 70 mph down I-10. As Robert drove, the >second diver rested on the bed in the back. Suddenly, the unmistakable >sound of metal against asphalt shattered the calm and as the diver on the >bed looked out the rear window, he saw the trailer trying to pass Robert to >the left. Now, Robert was in the left lane and this left little room for >the trailer to maneuver. With it's tongue still attached to the trailer >hitch and now dragging on the pavement, the little trailer headed for the me >dian where it began flying through the air end of end. > >By the time Robert was able to U-turn and get back to the scene of the >disaster, the smoke had pretty much cleared. Gear was strewn over a 50 yard >long stretch. It looked very much like those pictures you see of airplane >crash sites. Amazingly, the oxygen cylinders did not explode. The pelican >case did it's job. The scooter case did it's job. Most of the >miscellaneous gear was fine. Despair had been replaced by hope. That is >until the two divers sadly examined the doubles. The set with the Dive-Rite >manifold and bands, though not leaking, were goners. The top band had >failed and the manifold was now Z shaped where the relatively thin threaded >spool sections with the double barrel o rings had been bent. > >Turning to the other set of doubles, the ones sporting the OMS manifold and >bands, the two were amazed! After digging the sod out of the valve outlets >and blowing them clean, it became apparent there was no damage! None >whatsoever. And Robert Laird and Jess Armantrout were able to successful >complete their pilgrimage. > >And now you know, the REST of the story. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>; Elinor Lucas & Matt >Abramovich <lucasabramovich@sp*.ca*>; Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 8:00 PM >Subject: Re: WTB: Used OMS iso manifold > > >>I would guess that 99% of my opinions are based on my personal >>experience. When I read George's opinion of OMS manifolds I partook to >>investigate one and found that he was probably correct in his opinion of >>said manifold. And, in my experience, I have found that Georges track >>record is similar to yours, therefore my post. I will admit that I have >>not used one or had one fail on me so I guess you got me on this one. >> >> Jim >> >>Sender: Jess Armantrout Date: 4/10/99 6:56 PM >> >>>negative. I have yet to see the chief be proven incorrect on any thing to >>>do with gear, dive planning, or diving in general. >>> >>>Now then, answer me this. Do you ever have an opinion of your own based >on >>>experience? >>> >>>Jess >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >>>To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>; Elinor Lucas & Matt >>>Abramovich <lucasabramovich@sp*.ca*>; Tech Diver ><techdiver@aquanaut.com> >>>Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 8:32 AM >>>Subject: Re: WTB: Used OMS iso manifold >>> >>> >>>>Ah, contention amongst the ranks. A good thing to see. Seems to me that >>>>the face ring on a DIN is a more robust fitting that the leverage the >>>>length of the isolator gives you for potential misalignment. Jess, I take >>>>it you are the team contrairian? >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>>Sender: Jess Armantrout Date: 4/9/99 9:58 PM >>>> >>>>>face oring? You mean like the oring on a din first stage? >>>>> >>>>>dual captured orings? You mean like on the usdct scooter copies? >>>>> >>>>>Trout >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >>>>>To: Jesse Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>; Elinor Lucas & Matt >>>>>Abramovich <lucasabramovich@sp*.ca*>; Tech Diver >>><techdiver@aquanaut.com> >>>>>Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 5:41 PM >>>>>Subject: Re: WTB: Used OMS iso manifold >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> To quote your fearless leader the OMS uses a face oring rathter than >>>>>>dual captured orings making them suspectable to leakage due to >>>>>>misalignment or damage. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim >>>>>> >>>>>>Sender: Jesse Armantrout Date: 4/9/99 2:24 PM >>>>>> >>>>>>>My OMS manifold will be the last one I sell. No, I do not have any >for >>>>>>>sale. I was wondering your reasons why they are so bad. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Jess >>>>>>> >>>>>>>---------- >>>>>>> From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >>>>>>> To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>; Elinor Lucas & >Matt >>>>>>>Abramovich <lucasabramovich@sp*.ca*>; Tech Diver >>>>><techdiver@aquanaut.com> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: WTB: Used OMS iso manifold >>>>>>> Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 1:20 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What, you do have some for sale? If they are so great why sell 'em? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sender: Jess Armantrout Date: 4/8/99 11:20 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >Really? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >Trout >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >-----Original Message----- >>>>>>> >From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >>>>>>> >To: Elinor Lucas & Matt Abramovich <lucasabramovich@sp*.ca*>; Tech >>>>>>>Diver >>>>>>> ><techdiver@aquanaut.com> >>>>>>> >Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 6:55 PM >>>>>>> >Subject: Re: WTB: Used OMS iso manifold >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>You're too late, the garbage man came last tuesday. Why would you >>>want >>>>>>>a >>>>>>> >>set of the worse manifolds ever made? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>Sender: Elinor Lucas & Matt Abramovich Date: 4/8/99 1:05 PM >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>Just wondering if maybe one of you has one of these sitting around >>>in >>>>>>>the >>>>>>> >>>garage amidst the 5 sets of >>>>>>> >>>doubles, two Gavin scooters, 30 assorted stages, Halcyon >>>rebreather, >>>>>>>two >>>>>>> >>>TLS drysuits, 30 regs, 3 Barry Miller primary lights, 3 >backplates, >>>>>>>three >>>>>>> >>>wings, masks, fins, backup lights, chargers, tools, analyzers, >>>etc., >>>>>a >>>>>>>14 >>>>>>> >>>foot jon >>>>>>> >>>boat and motor. ;-) Hmmm, Trout, Joel? >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>Thanks, >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>Matt >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>- >>>>>-- >>>>>>>- >>>>>>> >>>-------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>My toys! My toys! 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