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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 07:33:18 -0700
To: GDPLEDGER@ao*.co*
From: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>
Subject: Re: Trimix ,, Gas testing
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Right-o there buddy.  That would explain why how everyone here (everytime),
when they put 545 psi of oxygen in a tank (with a reasonably accurate
pressure gauge) and top it off to 3300 comes out with a measured 34% O2.
Boy, you're right.  These things just don't work worth a damn.

Now I can't go diving today because of this.  You have ruined my day. 


Geeze, when am I going to get around to filtering these AOL trolls....


At 12:27 AM 4/10/1999 EDT, you wrote:
> There is a lot of good science being discussed on this list in this
thread.  
>Here at Oceanspec we have been conducting a government equipment survey and 
>reliability test on several different types of equipment.
> I have already made the statement to this list that most O2 sensor
equipment 
>should not be trusted. Most notable the gas sensor and testing equipment 
>available to the dive community from this country. I probably spoke to soon. 
> I am sure I will be corrected by somebody but our count shows 22 brands of 
>equipment available to test for O2 content of gas, all can be used in 
>portable mode all are battery operated. The test gear that was evaluated was 
>both new and used.  The units were tested using Swan or IoneticBM test 
>comparators calibrated with certified CRG or National Calibration gas in 
>10/85 21/70, 35/60 and 52/45 gas concentrations. Each test received control 
>samples from ambient air.
>All were tested at 88 F,72F, 60 F ,40 F . All of the equipment was tested 
>then sent off to be recalibrated (by manufacture recommendations), and then 
>tested again. 
> The average negative error (low reading) was 22% of total tested 
>concentration. That would mean a 52% O2 concentration show 39% on the test 
>gear.  The average positive test reading was 29% above the cal gas values
for 
>that test. The most disturbing was several test that indicated. a 10/85 cal 
>gas as being a 32% concentration.
>The total test package is not yet complete, so I will not talk about each 
>machine.  The errors that we see at the two lower ambient temperatures are
so 
>great that I do not see the utility of even trying to use the equipment.
This 
>problem gets much better if the portable test gear is kept at standard temp. 
>Gas flow fluctuations against the test head was as big A problem as temp
was. 
>A cheap and safe way out of this problem is to carry a small bottle of cal 
>gas, probable the 35/60 , give your trusty old "STROKE" machine A sniff and 
>compare it's read to a known Percentage in the cal gas cylinder.  Remember 
>that not any cal gas will do must be O2 and An inert That should tell you if 
>there is A problem.
>Somebody on this list just recently alluded to the fact that there is no He 
>test gear that was cheap, try a Draeger tube and a balloon, that will run 
>about $7.00 per test. Draeger claims an accuracy of + or -05% . That is 
>better that the Abbot or RocheBM converted gear.
>    
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Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>

Northwest Labor Systems
http://www.nwls.com
Lake Stevens, WA

"I suppose you want a user interface with that..."
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