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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 20:27:49 -0500
To: "Jess Armantrout" <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
From: Mike Rodriguez <mikey@ma*.co*>
Subject: Re: Deep deco question
Cc: "Cam Banks" <cam@ca*.co*>,
At 03:22 PM 4/2/99 -0600, Jess Armantrout wrote:

>Oh, if DECOM help file says it, it must be correct.  I am sorry I questioned
>you.  And if DECOM generates tables that make the dive longer, that too must
>be correct.  What was I thinking.

Jess, why are you getting so defensive?

I quoted the Decom help file and tables because Decom is
VERY widely accepted as being a correct implementation
of Buhlman's model as well as Richard Pyle's algorithm.
Decom is actively being used by hundreds of divers every
day.  What it says must be given some weight, even if you
disagree with it.

If Decom says deep-stops add to the total deco time and
you say they don't, then doesn't it stand to reason that
the thing to do is to discuss the contradiction -- without
becoming defensive?

In my last post, where I responded to your comment that
deep-stops HAVE been shown to reduce the incidence of
DCS by quoting the Decom help file which says they have
not, I asked you for pointers to the data supporting
your assertion that they do.  Instead of pointers,
you reply with sarcasm and no information to advance the
discussion.  If you do have evidence that deep-stops
reduce the incidence of DCS, please tell us where to
find the data.  If your evidence is based on your
extensive experience instead of experimental data,
then tell us that.  I would consider any statement
you make based on personal knowledge and experience
to be as important to this discussion as hard data.

>Try doing a few hundred dives that require one to eight hours of deco and
>dive with guys with colectively several thousand dives with decos ranging
>from one to sixteen hours of deco and I think you may find a different set
>of information.

The VAST majority of divers never do such dives.  If your
statements contradicting Decom and other accepted software
are intended in the context of this type of diving, then
we're comparing apples and oranges.  If your statements are
intended to cover ALL types of diving, then I don't see
the relevance of me doing hundreds of dives requiring
eight-hour deco.

-Mike Rodriguez
<mikey@ma*.co*>

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