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Definitely 100' :) Kevin Connell wrote: > First, here it is dark at 90 feet regardless of the time of day. (or is it > 100ft, jeff?) > > Second, this is techdiver, not rec.scuba. > > Third, a light is always necessary and usefull on any deep dive. > > At 02:15 PM 3/16/1999 -0500, you wrote: > >>Why would you dive without a light? Its a system, not a bunch of pieces. > > > >Cuase it aint dark out? I dive DIR, but during day, recreational dives, I > >don't wear my cannister light. DIR also states you take only what you > >need...I really don't find a need for 50 watts at 9 a.m.... > > > >I think we're losing the commonsense portion of this system. > > > >Sean > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > >To: Steve Hogan <Steve.Hogan@tr*.co*> > >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > >Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 12:17 PM > >Subject: RE: Weight belts and backplates > > > > > >>It's my understanding the the cannister light (14AH) is 7lbs negative. > >> > >>Why would you dive without a light? Its a system, not a bunch of pieces. > >> > >>DIR or DDIAA. > >> > >>At 09:12 AM 3/16/1999 -0800, you wrote: > >>>Kevin, > >>> > >>>I found the V-weight interferred with the argon bottle. A solution > >>>was to notch out where the argon bottle strap goes. This still > >>>did not provide good trim for me. so I moved it. > >>> > >>>I still need the weight (all of 6 lbs), but not as a V-weight. > >>>This is when I am diving without my canister light. When I use > >>>my canister light, then no weight is needed. > >>> > >>>My canister light is not 6 lbs negative, only three. I use 6 > >>>lbs as smaller weights move or fall out. > >>> > >>>Steve > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*] > >>>Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 9:04 AM > >>>To: Steve Hogan > >>>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >>>Subject: RE: Weight belts and backplates > >>> > >>> > >>>Steve, you're quoted below saying weight is needed, and that a v-weight > >>>doesn't work well with an argon bottle, neither of which are true. > >>> > >>>There, I said it without an insult. > >>> > >>>At 08:30 AM 3/16/1999 -0800, you wrote: > >>>>More insults... > >>>> > >>>>As you will see in a message that I just sent to Cobb, > >>>>The trim is far better (for me) than the V weight. > >>>> > >>>>FWIW, I dive in Southern Californina (Sunday 52 deg) > >>>> > >>>>Why don't you explain what you are doing instead of assuming > >>>>that anyone diving different than you is doing is wrong? > >>>> > >>>>Steve > >>>> > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*] > >>>>Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 8:25 PM > >>>>To: Steve Hogan > >>>>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >>>>Subject: RE: Weight belts and backplates > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Yes, steve, please tell us about your cold water drysuit diving. > >>>> > >>>>It must be a miracle how I dive in 41f water without any weight. Or, > >maybe > >>>>it's just that I do it right, and you do it wrong. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>At 06:15 PM 3/15/1999 -0800, you wrote: > >>>>>Cobb, > >>>>> > >>>>>You didn't answer the question. > >>>>> > >>>>>For cold water/drysuit diving more lead is required. A V-Weight > >>>>>does not work very well with the Argon bottle, so one needs to > >>>>>add weight somewhere. > >>>>> > >>>>>I have found that I need 6 lbs (for the end of the dive to be neutral) > >>>>>I use two canvas pockets that I slide on to the waist belt. I have made > >>>>>them so I *can* ditch weight if I choose to. No big deal. Ths also > >allows > >>>>>me to use the same BC for warm water/cold water, single tanks/double > >>>tanks. > >>>>>The pockets are also a good place to put a jon line, notes, whatever. > >>>>> > >>>>>The stainless steel backplate would be way too much in warm water (- > >8lb) > >>>>>So I made the pockets. I can also remove these underwater (with gloves) > >>>>>if necessary and they do not get in the way. > >>>>> > >>>>>Yes, I could optimize with two different BCs (SS and AL), but why? > >>>>>This system allows flexibility without compromising any other piece of > >>>>>equipment. Besides, I would much rather drop a weight than my canister. > >>>>> > >>>>>Steve > >>>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*] > >>>>>Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 5:08 PM > >>>>>To: RLucas1013@ao*.co*; Tech Diver > >>>>>Subject: Re: Weight belts and backplates > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>In warm water ocean diving when properly configured you are only putting > >>>>>about 6 lbs or so on your weightbelt. The whole point of the exercise is > >>>>>for you to be able to swim up to the surface, not to ditch your weights > >>>>>in a mad panic and head to the surface like a goddamn polaris missle. > >>>>> > >>>>>If you are tech diving in cold water with a 7mm farmer john that needs > >>>>>35lbs of lead to sink then you are Doing It Wrong. You need to be in a > >>>>>drysuit, a wetsuit is not an option here. And if you are in a drysuit > >you > >>>>>have 2 ways of getting yourself to the surface. If you need a little > >>>>>extra buoyancy you drop your cannister light and your tools. > >>>>> > >>>>>And while George knows of what he speaks, he is stating common sense, > >not > >>>>>dogma. If you think a little about the situation I think you will agree. > >>>>> > >>>>> Jim > >>>>> > >>>>>Sender: RLucas1013@ao*.co* Date: 3/15/99 5:02 PM > >>>>> > >>>>>>I thought the idea of a weight belt was to drop in an emergency. George > >>>>has > >>>>>>stated diving with double alum tanks and a wet suit a weight belt is > >the > >>>>>way > >>>>>>to go in open ocean, so in case of an emergency drop the weight. How do > >>>>you > >>>>>>drop a V weight in an emergency with double alum tanks and a wet suit > >if > >>>>>that > >>>>>>is what you were referring to? In any event how do you drop a V weight > >in > >>>>>an > >>>>>>emergency in open water? > >>>>>>BOB > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >>>>>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >>>>>-- > >>>>>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >>>>>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >>>>> > >>>>----------------------------------------------- > >>>>Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > >>>> > >>>>NW Labor Systems, Inc > >>>>http://www.nwls.com > >>>> > >>>>And I suppose you want a user interface with > >>>>that..... > >>>>----------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>----------------------------------------------- > >>>Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > >>> > >>>NW Labor Systems, Inc > >>>http://www.nwls.com > >>> > >>>And I suppose you want a user interface with > >>>that..... > >>>----------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>----------------------------------------------- > >>Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > >> > >>NW Labor Systems, Inc > >>http://www.nwls.com > >> > >>And I suppose you want a user interface with > >>that..... > >>----------------------------------------------- > >>-- > >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > ----------------------------------------------- > Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > > NW Labor Systems, Inc > http://www.nwls.com > > And I suppose you want a user interface with > that..... > ----------------------------------------------- > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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