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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:39:50 -0500
From: SAWilson35 <SAWilson35@co*.co*>
Subject: RE: Weight belts and backplates
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
I have found some 3-4" square weight pockets at my local dive shop, they
have no mfg's name on them, but work great for this app. They are
neoprememe with a belt loop of 2" webbing. A 5# weight will fit in each
one, giving a lot of weighting options.The loop is about 2.5" in diameter=
,
so with a little work, you can slide it right over the buckle, knife
holder(for small knife) and the dring. This way you can push them as far
back as you want for balance (all the way back to snug the backplate). Th=
e
right side has no hardware in the way, so it's a cinch for that side. Mou=
nt
them upside down and they become quick release weight pockets or right si=
de
up and it's a great little pocket for a small slate, compass and jon line=
..
I almost think that these were made with a DIR system in mind. 90% of my
diving is wet, so this solves lots of problems, even diving doubles
(usually alum) and stages. =


Steve Wilson

I use 104's , a 14lb backplate, a neoprene drysuit and no belt weight and=
 =

no V or P weight. Apparently you need to work on your drysuit technique.

 Jim

Sender: Steve Hogan  Date: 3/15/99 9:15 PM

>Cobb,
>
>You didn't answer the question.
>
>For cold water/drysuit diving more lead is required. A V-Weight =

>does not work very well with the Argon bottle, so one needs to =

>add weight somewhere. =

>
>I have found that I need 6 lbs (for the end of the dive to be neutral)
>I use two canvas pockets that I slide on to the waist belt. I have made
>them so I *can* ditch weight if I choose to. No big deal. Ths also allow=
s
>me to use the same BC for warm water/cold water, single tanks/double
tanks.
>The pockets are also a good place to put a jon line, notes, whatever.
>
>The stainless steel backplate would be way too much in warm water (- 8lb=
)
>So I made the pockets.  I can also remove these underwater (with gloves)=

>if necessary and they do not get in the way. =

>
>Yes, I could optimize with two different BCs (SS and AL), but why?
>This system allows flexibility without compromising any other piece of
>equipment. Besides, I would much rather drop a weight than my canister.
>
>Steve
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
>Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 5:08 PM
>To: RLucas1013@ao*.co*; Tech Diver
>Subject: Re: Weight belts and backplates
>
>
>In warm water ocean diving when properly configured you are only putting=
 =

>about 6 lbs or so on your weightbelt. The whole point of the exercise is=
 =

>for you to be able to swim up to the surface, not to ditch your weights =

>in a mad panic and head to the surface like a goddamn polaris missle.
>
>If you are tech diving in cold water with a 7mm farmer john that needs =

>35lbs of lead to sink then you are Doing It Wrong. You need to be in a =

>drysuit, a wetsuit is not an option here. And if you are in a drysuit yo=
u =

>have 2 ways of getting yourself to the surface. If you need a little =

>extra buoyancy you drop your cannister light and your tools.
>
>And while George knows of what he speaks, he is stating common sense, no=
t =

>dogma. If you think a little about the situation I think you will agree.=

>
> Jim
>
>Sender: RLucas1013@ao*.co*  Date: 3/15/99 5:02 PM
>
>>I thought the idea of a weight belt was to drop in an emergency. George=

has
>>stated diving with double alum tanks and a wet suit a weight belt is th=
e
>way
>>to go in open ocean, so in case of an emergency drop the weight. How do=

you
>>drop a V weight in an emergency with double alum tanks and a wet suit i=
f
>that
>>is what you were referring to? In any event how do you drop a V weight =
in
>an
>>emergency in open water?
>>BOB
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