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From: <GDPLEDGER@ao*.co*>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 20:35:59 EST
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Fwd: U-2513 & Rhein Hamburg dives
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At Dell Motes suggestion I will forward this to the entire list. I would like
input from any other Eod types lurking on the list as to thoughts about the
"HEDGEHOG" and "MOUSETRAP" ASW ordinance found around many sunken U-boats. And
for Paul Johnson,Cmdr. USN Ret., Yes Paul I know I miss quoted the warhead
weight. It is 26 Kg. each, the 98 Lb. war head I quoted, belongs to the MK 110
or MK 114 ASW mortar and has a Hydrostatic firing Mechanism (It is still
dangerous!)  But both the HEDGEHOG and MOUSETRAP will be indistinguishable to
the sport diver and both have real killer potential. (as does any ordinance)
but I believe these deserve particular attention. 
I would still like to hear from any others who has had to deal with these
Items.  

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From: "Dell Motes" <dell@di*.co*>
To: <GDPLEDGER@ao*.co*>
Subject: Re: U-2513 & Rhein Hamburg dives
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:57:37 -0500
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That is some excellent info. I don't touch any ordinance, and I would hope
most divers have the same respect. (Doubtful, but we can always hope ;-) Y=
ou
should forward that to the list, that is good stuff.
Thanks again,
Dell
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From: GDPLEDGER@ao*.co* <GDPLEDGER@ao*.co*>
To: dell@di*.co* <dell@di*.co*>
Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: U-2513 & Rhein Hamburg dives


>Sounds  like A truely sweet dive. Please be aware that the HedgeHog anti-
>submarine device is probably the single most dangerous piece of ordinance
that
>a diver may come across. It generally hits the bottom head down with its
fin
>stabiliser sticking up out of the mud. In the EOD comunity there is a
general
>rule that A Hedgehog is never moved but will be destroyed in place. The
>trouble is that they have a really effective pistol type firing device in
the
>base of the fin. The fin assembly is mild steel the cocking device is
>corrosion proof. If you hit one and break the corroded fin the pistol wil=
l
>probably fire. They carry between 62 lbs and 98 lbs of explosive in a
shaped
>charge.  Maybe you dive club could place  reflectors on the scattered
>ordinance and  A informational placard on the submarine.
>
>cheers
>
>GDPLEDGER
>



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