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From: "H20Caver" <ezimmerm@ch*.ca*.us*.ed*>
To: <vpg@li*.ne*>
Cc: "Tech Diver List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Rob Palmers death
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:16:42 -0500
    What is a DIR course and who is giving it? Specifics please.

    I guess that your dive buddies need a leader or atleast a good
example,are you up for it?

    Use the proper gas for the dive. If you have a question post it-delete
the useles and ponder the critical.

    Toss in 55 or 60 bar of helium on the next dive you do to 40 meters,
print up some tables from a pc and dive a no deco limit-you tell me if there
is a difference in the dive. Make sure it is some place you have dived a
shitload of times.

    Pissed on? You made a statement, I pissed on the statement, if some got
on your shoes I'm sorry_EZ






>When I say working towards I mean I am putting together the right kit
 just
>taken delivery of halcyon 55IB wings) and Im planning on doing a DIR course
>in the UK.
>
>I never said nitrox was "the answer" in fact what I actually said was
"Were
>the discussion or arguments should centre are on the divers who dismiss
>alternative gas mixtures including Nitrox for dives in the 20/30/40/50/60+
>metre ranges." note the word "including" it is quite important. My angle on
>this is that 90% + of club divers wont even consider nitrox, trimix to them
>is purely a commercial diving thing and anyway I doubt anyone is going to
do
>40 metre dives on trimix?
>
>If people like me with a real interest in personal improvement get pissed
on
>like this then you never going to convince the other 90%
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: H20Caver [mailto:ezimmerm@ch*.ca*.us*.ed*]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 8:08 PM
>> To: vpg@li*.ne*
>> Cc: Tech Diver List
>> Subject: Re: Rob Palmers death
>>
>>
>> First, you don't know what you are going to die from (or do you?).
>> Second, you say "working towards". This might be a dickhead
>> comment but, how
>> does one work toward s a complete system? Are you leaving in the HP tanks
>> for now? Are you waiting to get the backplate and harness, so you just
"DO
>> IT ALMOST" with a bc labeled tech? Or are you butt mounting the light
>> because the only dive buddies you can find are in the Greek Divers United
>> Club(that would almost pass as an excuse)?
>>
>> The point is that there is some hypocrisy in your criticism. Or is that
>> peanutbutter  in your chocolate, never mind.
>> You state "without learning the facts or
>> >> benefits to be
>> >> >> >gained, its a case of closed minds. " You have obviously
>> not learned
>> the fact about Hi pn2s or the risk /benefit relations of hi po2s. AND you
>> definitely don't know of the narcotic effects of o2. This I know of first
>> hand. So, for you to just say something off the cuff is just as
>> dangerous as
>> doubting others techniques. Besides, if you want to do this kind of
>> diving-you gotta be tough, mentally and physically, but most of all
>> egotistically-EZ
>>
>>
>>
>> >Im not going to die from a diving related incident, Im working
>> towards DIR
>> >but what pisses me is the way people just wait to jump on you.
Everything
>> is
>> >twisted round, you try and make a constructive point but some
>> twat tries to
>> >get smart.
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: H20Caver [mailto:ezimmerm@ch*.ca*.us*.ed*]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 7:30 PM
>> >> To: vpg@li*.ne*
>> >> Cc: Tech Diver
>> >> Subject: Re: Rob Palmers death
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I may be a dickhead, but it is more likely you and the buddy you drag
>> down
>> >> will end up dead.........AND that's MISTER Dickhead to you-EZ
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Your an ignorant dickhead but I dont want to get personal
>> >> >
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: H20Caver [mailto:ezimmerm@ch*.ca*.us*.ed*]
>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 6:31 PM
>> >> >> To: vpg@li*.ne*; Techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> >> >> Subject: Re: Rob Palmers death
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>     I don't know who you are, I assume you speak english, I
>> assume you
>> >> did
>> >> >> mean nitrox when you wrote it below. You are an idiot-EZ
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >alternative gas mixtures including Nitrox for dives in the
>> >> >> 20/30/40/50/60+
>> >> >> >metre ranges. The use of Nitrox would improve safety, allow a
>> >> >> clearer mind
>> >> >> >during a dive and reduce post dive fatigue. Unfortunately
>> most divers
>> >> >> >dismiss alternatives to air without learning the facts or
>> >> benefits to be
>> >> >> >gained, its a case of closed minds. One of the reasons to resist
>> >> >> Nitrox by
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

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