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From: "David Shimell (shimell)" <shimell@se*.co*>
To: John Brett <John.Brett@pi*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Break-away for pressure gauge?
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:01:54 -0000
All

>>As I recall, JJ's method for securing the long hose second stage
>>involved a tank O-ring and a zip-tie. The tank O-ring is looped
>>round the hose in a "figure 8", and then zip-tied to the clip. This
>>gives it a little "stretch", while still allowing it to be broken
>>free with a good tug.  Is that what you are thinking of?

Alternatively...

Unscrew the pressure gauge from the first stage and fold an O-ring through
the eye of the swivel bolt snap.  In doing this you have created two loops
of O-ring.  Pass the pressure gauge hose through the two O-ring loops and
slide down to the end of the hose near the gauge.  Reconnect hose to first
stage.  Voila.  A breakaway without the use of a zip tie.  This should also
keep Jim Cobb happy as he rightly hates zip ties!

BTW, the section of the O-ring needs to be appropriate to break with the
right amount of force, but not flimsy enough to break when not desired.  I
found a neck O-ring to be too strong and bought some thinner O-rings of
1/16" section but the same diameter (sorry, I can't recall the reference for
these).

Note that this method can be used to secure break away regulator clips also.

John Grogan put out an email a while ago about this, I am merely
plagiarising.

David Shimell
Project Manager, Sequent Computer Systems Ltd., Sandton, South Africa.
Email: shimell@se*.co* <mailto:shimell@se*.co*> 

-----Original Message-----
From:	John Brett [SMTP:John.Brett@pi*.co*]
Sent:	Thursday, February 25, 1999 9:36 AM
To:	techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject:	RE: Break-away for pressure gauge?



> There was something on the list a while back that JJ had devised a way to
> rig the pressure gauge bolt snap so it could be broken free if needed? 

A guy I know has just come back from training with JJ:
>>Apparently, JJ was in a
>>situation where he couldn't get his gauge unclipped and couldn't cut it -
>>hence the switch

>As I recall, JJ's method for securing the long hose second stage
>involved a tank O-ring and a zip-tie. The tank O-ring is looped
>round the hose in a "figure 8", and then zip-tied to the clip. This
>gives it a little "stretch", while still allowing it to be broken
>free with a good tug.  Is that what you are thinking of?

The same applies to the SPG.

<snip>

>The same method could certainly be used for the SPG, but I'm not sure
>it's necessary. Under what circumstances would you want an SPG to
>"break away"?

There's a brief section in the DIR II tape where G talks about breakaway vs
non-breakaway
gear. The long hose and SPG come under the breakaway category as having the
boltsnap break off isn't a disaster (a pain, maybe), and there are cases in
which you
may need to get the hose quickly.

John Brett

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