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Subject: Re: neophyte
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:19:12 -0500
From: Bill Wolk <BillWolk@ea*.ne*>
To: "DERYK LANGLAIS" <derykl@OG*.AC*.JP*>
cc: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
On2/22/99 2:09 AM, DERYK LANGLAIS wrote:

> However, my question is about
>equipment.  I bought my regulator about 10 years ago, a Posieon Odin.  I
>have since learned that the Odin's design is potentially dangerous due
>to its upstream valve.  This would, I should think, make it a poor
>choice for technical diving.  (ANY diving for that matter.)  However,
>Posiedon claims that "90% of technical divers use a Poseidon regulator".
>Is this true?  And if so, why?  Although I have had few problems with my
>regulator after hundreds of open water dives, I'd like to hear what you
>guys think.

Deryk -

The reason the Odin and other upstream valve regulators are inappropriate 
for technical diving is that they can fail closed -- i.e. no gas.  All 
other regulators fail open -- meaning they freeflow -- which still gives 
you access to your gas and 1) you can potentially fix underwater; 2) you 
can manage by opening and closing your tank valve.  Odin second stages 
also have a tendency to freeflow in strong current or when scootering and 
cannot be easily disassembled and cleaned of debris during a dive.

They're widely used because they deliver a tremendous amount of gas at 
all depths; have good breathing characteristics deep; and are highly 
rated by most reviewers.  

You'll find that the one consistent message on this list is that "doing 
it right" means eliminating those risks from technical diving that are 
controllable by the diver -- getting rid of risky equipment, simplifying 
gear configuration, training properly, and maintaining proper fitness.  
Realistically, the failure rate of the Odin is very, very small -- but it 
only takes one failure to ruin your whole day, and, frankly, it's not 
something I want to deal with inside a wreck at 200'.  

The most widely used regulators, by consensus, are Scubapro Mk20/G-250s 
and Zeagle/Apeks Tech 50-Ds or DS-4s. Oceanic Delta II balanced pistons 
are also increasingly popular.  Your most cost-effective solution is to 
replace your Odin second stage with an adjustable downstream second like 
the G-250/T-50/Delta II on a 5-7' long hose -- all of which will work 
with the Odin first. (Make sure you first stage is adjusted correctly and 
overhauled first; I find that the intermediate pressure on my Poseidon 
first tends to drift.) 

For more information on gear selection/configuration, check the archives 
and look at the links on www.wkpp.org, particularly Jeff Bentley's gear 
pages and Todd Leonard's pages on how to put together a hogarthian 
doubles rig.  Then check out the information at the the GUE web page -- 
www.gue.com -- and Jim Cobb's trimix webpage - 
http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html.




Best regards --

Bill

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