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Not sure what the full relationship between PADI & CMAS is/was but when I
was actively teaching (73-80) the relationship was close enough that the
PADI automatically issued PADI instructors a CMAS card at no cost and
with no kind of cross-over testing of any kind. I know because I was sent
one with an issue date of 3-3-78. It was entitled "International Diving
Instructor's Certificate, 2 Stars".

I kind of recall that you could by some method get those students you
PADI certified a CMAS C-card but I can't recall how it worked. 


On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:35:11 +1100 Christian Gerzner
<christiang@pi*.co*.au*> writes:
>> Wrolf Courtney wrote:
>> Paul Harris wrote:
>(snips)
>
>and I wrote
>>> PADI, after some "adjustment", "compromise", "nod and
>>> wink", etc, you get my drift, sort of filled the shoes of BS-AC 
>whom CMAS
>>> "expelled". BS-AC was a founder member and then encountered the 
>wrath
>>> of the octogenarians (a word I use advisedly) in the CMAS. I
>>> don't think that BS-AC, of whom as I recall you are a member Wrolf, 
>are
>>> unduly concerned.
>> > Not quite true, the SAA (Sub Aqua Association) are the
>> British representatives, I believe.
>
>Correct, I got it wrong. I rather suspect though that PADI then made a
>concerted rush to become a member of the fold immediately that that
>happened.
>(snip)
>
>> PADI could hardly represent British divers since the CMAS
>> representative is (supposed to be) national to the country 
>concerned. This
>> is part of the reason given for expelling the BS-AC, who were 
>training
>> divers in Korea(?).
>
>Correct again on both counts. Excuse me however, PADI does not train
>anywhere other than the US of A? Really? I also seem to recall that
>Training Organisations (accepted by the CMAS) *must be* non profit, 
>that
>the BS-AC got expelled because their venture into Korea was *for
>profit*.
>
>Hmmm, PADI is a non profit organisation? I should here point out that
>although I have no real liking of the PADI's of this world, this is 
>not
>PADI bashing, this is looking at what I consider the double standards 
>of
>the CMAS, whom I *used to* hold in high regard.
>
>>,Plus we never entered their underwater wrestling competitions. :)
>
>Chuckle, gollygosh, you're right again. (snip)
>>      Sadly most diving operations are more concerned about credit
>>      cards than c-cards.
>
>ABSOLUTELY.
>> >      Paul Harris
>> > Thanks for the clarifications Christian and Paul.� Two minor
>> clarifications of my own: I learned to dive in Israel after I left 
>the
>> UK, and therefore hold an Israeli CMAS card (plus a PADI card, it 
>was
>> a dual course).
>(snip)
>
>> But the more substantial issue right now is this UNESCO Convention.� 
>I
>> think that we need to take up John Broadwater's challenge:
>> �
>>      Please, don't just condemn all government resource
>>      management programs (natural and
>>      cultural)--instead, try working with us to improve them.�
>>      All of our Federal management programs have public review
>>      and comment cycles associated with them, as does the UNESCO
>>      Convention on the Protection of Underwater Cultural
>>      Heritage, that is currently being debated in the
>>      international arena.� (Which, by the way, won't eliminate
>>      all wreck diving on the planet, as some would have you
>>      believe!).
>> > So if it is now being debated in the international arena - where?� 
>Who
>> are our representatives (national, such as NOAA in the U.S., or
>> transnational, such as CMAS perhaps)?
>
>From what has appeared on this list of late regarding UNESCO, if the
>various posters are to be believed, and I think they are, I would call
>this exercise fruitless, futile and with the purpose of giving a lot 
>of
>well paid bureaucrats more tenure in their well paid "seats".
>
>As usual it is not well publicised, heck if you, Wrolf, can't find it 
>on
>the Net, I suggest few can. As you say:
>
>> How do we contact them, makeour point(s) of view known, and monitor 
>their progress?
>
>Cheers, sorry for the bandwidth, esp since its not really "tech",
>
>Christian
>
>
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