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<html> =A0<br> <font color=3D"#000099"><blockquote type=3Dcite cite>Ok Mr Messersmith.=A0 T= he line i am talking about is a shotline with a heavy weight.=A0 The divers goes down cuts the line from the weight and tie off to the wreck. Really complicated is it not!=A0 I am sure diving the anchor line is much better?.=A0 If you can not see the advantage with a separate ascent line you are clearly stupid.</font></blockquote><br> <font color=3D"#000000">Ok Mr Messersmith Jr.(I don't know what that means,but if it was meant to piss me off it should make you mad as hell) I never said that the way you now say to do it was a bad idea ,it was what you did not say at first that makes you seem clearly lacking in details.With so many dives you must be doing a better job on the boat briefing than the posting.<br> <br> <blockquote type=3Dcite cite> <br> <br> </font><font color=3D"#000099">If there is current we have a second boat, a rib.</font></blockquote><br> <font color=3D"#000000">Now you tell me there is a chase boat,things become more clear when you tell all the details.If I were to post deco tables for all to see and forgot to show the gas and times ,it would not make any sense to do it ,would you dive that plan?I would not dive your boat plan either based on the post.<br> <br> </font><font color=3D"#000099"><blockquote type=3Dcite cite> We almost never have currents where i dive but when we do we use a second boat.=A0 I do not dive in=A0 Jeresy </font><br> The risk of not finding our line is almost non exsitant as it is placed on a good spot. All the wrecks that are deep that we dive are intact. If we place the line on the bow for example how are you going to miss the line?=A0 It is pretty basic to find the bow on the ship is it not?=A0 Could you tell me if diving a 400 feet deep wreck how much of the 1/8 inch line you would need and how big a bag you would need if the current is 3 mph?</blockquote><br> <font color=3D"#000000">Some of our wrecks have no bow ,no stern,on port ,and no stbd.They are little more then pcs. on the very bottom.To plan to send a bag from 400ft is a secondary plan and to plan to do that as your main plan will someday bite you in the ass.I have not dive in New Jersey either.<br> <br> </font><font color=3D"#000099"><blockquote type=3Dcite cite>We had CO2 problems from swiming at depth in currents as it was already.=A0</font></blockquote><br> <font color=3D"#000000">I have had that problem myself,I let some guys that were in charge of a dive once use a plan something like yours ,but your detailed plan is much better , they were dumb asses.I will go over all details before I get burn again with someone else plan.<br> <br> </font><font color=3D"#000099"> And to anchor on the wreck would bee hard because of the depth but if you did and the anchor pulled during the dive you are pretty fucked if the Jersey upline method fails.=A0 And one other thing we could not carry all the gas recuiered for the deco as it would bee pretty stupid to swim around on the wreck with 3 deco bottles in a stiff current and add to that your gear of 800 feet of line and a 800ib lift bag. We had to stage the oxygen for this reason.=A0 In the advent of not finding the line we had gas drop stations and several saftey diver ready and 3 chase boats=A0=A0 Please enlighten me how you would do this with the Jersey up line method.=A0 Do you really think this is a good way?</font><font color=3D"#000000"> <br> <br> I do not use the Jersey up line ,been there done that.It is too big and a snag.The rotting line will get you in the end,to use any other line is bad for the wreck,I have a better way.When it is fully tested I will share it with everyone.I have one question what is the difference in pulling yourself down the anchor rope in a current and doing the same thing on your shot line?And what is the difference in decoing on an anchor line and doing it on the permanent line to the wreck?Keep in mind I have said nothing about the hook pulling ,lets deal with these two details at a time.<br> Also I would like to talk this out and the only to do it is to stop taking stabs at each other.I will not get into a war over something that I may have said or something you have said.I have many dives plan for this year and they are of a great depth and I'm not sold on any plan,looking at many things and better ideas.Enlighten me please.<br> <br> Capt.JT<br> </font> <BR> </html> -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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