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From: "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
To: "Mailing Tech Diver List (E-mail)" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re[2]: Halcyon Stealth Pack & Surf Mat
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:10:24 -0500
Hi Art.


I don't use a canister light.  I use the reel on my left side and use
the right when I use Argon.  Just can't seem to see the benefits of a
canister.  I would definitely NOT suggest putting it on the same side as
the light.  The reel does not interfere with the stages on the left.  

When I deploy the reel I don't do it by the end, always have my gloves
close to the reel portion.  I also deploy by wrapping it under
something.  I don't shoot the bag like you see in the old videos where
the person fills it and let's it fly.  I find that you have a lot more
control and another person and easily help.  You can also pull up on the
line to create friction if it gets out of control.  Naturally you look
for a smooth pipe, not a jagged edge.

Also, I don't have it so tight that it would actually cause friction.
Certainly the amount of friction caused by the backplate against your
suit is more than the reel.  If you have it tight it's really
uncomfortable if it's not positioned right.  I tried this with a piece
of PVC once I used to put a long crow bar in once.  It was a very
painful experience.  Was really bad on the surface but I figured it
would not be a big deal underwater.  Became so uncomfortable that I
turned my planned 70-minute dive in just 30 minutes and took it apart
before the second dive.

Hope this helps.  Let me know if you have any other issues.

Art.


	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Art Greenberg [SMTP:artg@ec*.ne*]
	Sent:	Friday, January 15, 1999 12:37 PM
	To:	Paltz, Art; techdiver@aquanaut.com
	Subject:	Re: Re[2]: Halcyon Stealth Pack & Surf Mat

	At 10:48 AM 1/15/99 -0500, Paltz, Art wrote:
	>No tugging, streamlined and easy to deploy.  It sits under my
	>arm and I don't even know it's there although it's streamlined
by my
	>shoulder below my armpit.

	Thanks Art,

	This position is also used by some folks for their light
canister.
	Sounds like an okay place to stow the reel, but I wonder about
	wear on your drysuit from the spool end plates, or a chance of
	puncture from the handle. Is there enough clearance to avoid
	these problems, especially with your wings inflated?

	Which side? I have a canister light on the right side waist
	band, which might pose a deployment problem with this
arrangement
	if the spool is on that side as well. I'm interested to know if
	you've found that to be true.

	I'm also concerned about the clip on the reel handle. At one
time
	I had a split ring there, and used it to attach a leash so the
	reel couldn't get lost if I dropped it while deploying it. But
	that ring sure looked like a hazard while the reel was spinning.
	I imagined getting a finger caught in it, and the split ring is
	a potential entanglement opportunity ... I took it off for
	that reason. A better option might be a clevis pin or even
	a very weak cotter pin through the hole in the handle so the
clip
	(or whatever) could be removed before playing out any line.

	>The one I'm using, and I think Art Greenberg
	>is also using, are the smaller ones not the older style ones
that are
	>huge and use sisal line.

	Yes, small reel (about 12" total length, 4" diameter end plates,
	fixed handles) loaded with 1/8-inch braided nylon.

	>As for my 50 lb. lift bag, I put it in my left billow leg
pocket.

	My new drysuit has pockets, so that is a possiblity. But I would
	prefer to adopt a system that works as well with either drysuit,
	so having to go to my backup drysuit doesn't cause a cascade of
	other changes. I could also add pockets to the old suit ...


	Art Greenberg
	artg@ec*.ne*
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