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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 14:21:16 +0100
From: Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
To: Christopher Cox <hanalei@ma*.ul*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Ice diving
In Sweden where i live and dive we make quite a lot of ice diving.  We find the
DIR configuration optimal for ice diving and in fact any kind of diving you can
imagine.  I am involved in a divegroup called BSTD. It was started in 1995 and
at the time we had a lot of  so called "strokes" in the group. Only i and 2
more where
diving DIR which we learnt on a cave course thought by Jarrod Jablonski. In a
few years all of our members switched to diving  DIR (over 20 divers) because
they saw the advantages that this rig produces for our type of diving witch is
cold water ice, deep wreck, cave and flooded mine dives.  Today every single
diver in BSTD
dives DIR and they do so because they think it is the best configuration and it
works for any kind of environment and believe me they have tried every kind of
configuration you can come up with.  It took almost 4 years for everybody to
realize the full advantage of DIR and nobody has ever forced anybody to change
there
configuration. But still all of the diver came to the same conclusion. Isn't
that amazing?

Back to the ice diving issue then.  You certainly want to have redundancy as it
is an overhead environment.  Executing the dive can bee done like a cave dive
with a reel line to the surface. What we normally do is to deploy a shot line
to the bottom and connect the reel to that.  Otherwise the standard method
thought by the
sport diving agencies like CMAS and PADI is to use a safety rope
as described by Adri Hane.  Always have a person on the surface that can clear
the hole from ice as it can freeze up again during the dive if it is very cold.
To get some aid in case you would lose the line you can shovel snow from the
ice in lines extruding from the hole.  Locking up from underneath the ice these
lines
will bee clearly visible and will aid you getting back.
If you lose the line in a cave it is a very  serious situation but it is even
more serious under the ice. That is because in a cave you have more reference
to where you are, in ice diving you just have the bottom. That is why you
should bee familiar with the dive site before doing an ice dive and remember to
shovel the snow
to create navigational aid too.
The best advice though that i can give you is to take an ice diving course. Ice
diving is easy and safe if you know how to do it right.

To find out more about DIR have a look at this webpage:
wkpp.org

To read about what we are doing in BSTD have a look at:
bstd.org

Hope this helps,
Ingemar

Christopher Cox wrote:

> Hello,
>  I am posting this as a request for information. I am interested in ice
diving and would like to know what the opinion is out there concerning gear
set-up for said activity. Are redundant air sources consider standard
equipment? If so how should they be rigged? Any thoughtfull information would
be appreciated. Thank you.
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