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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:01:49 -0500
From: KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: Bill Mee <wwm@sa*.ne*>
CC: cavers <cavers@ca*.co*>, rebreather@nw*.co*,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com,
     "\"Cost effective home improvement\""
Subject: Re: Disgraceful - Fabrication of Data
Bill, I told Stone to leave the Lamar bottle alone. His "divers" called
it a "safety" bottle. I guess to them that seemed reasonable given what
they have for bailout. 

It is true , Sankey had the clock on the dive. Also, notice in this dive
that the graph calls it 30 minutes to the dropoff - a 400 foot trip adn
another new record for thes strokes. 

Here are the facts of doing that dive : 4 minutes to the drop, 9 more
minutes to the Lamar bottle, 3 more minutes until they hit a feature
that would have been mentioned, and we don't want to be drinking any
coke when they hit that. Also, I can tell by the changes in depth where
they were, and they did indeed turn on that hill past the lamar bottle,
but they went ahead and faked the forward looking section from there,
which bears no resemblance to what is on the mapper. In fact, they might
just be taking that from our Wyoming stuff. Maybe we better get Kincaid
to take that stuff down for a while.

Also note that in their own graph the time at the bottom , which is the
time beyond the intitial 250, is very short, but still too much for a
good diver to rountrip that dive .

Inded this is fraud, and it is a disgrace.

Bill Mee wrote:
> 
> Fabrication of Wakulla Data,
> 
> Ever since the Wakulla II Project began reporting the download logs from the
> Cis Lunar Mk5 rigs we were very suspicious of the published data.  There
> were two factors which cast doubt on these records. Firstly, the times
> involved to reach well known landmarks in the cave were absurdly long.
> Secondly and more subtle, were the decompression profiles which appeared to
> defy our own extensive and internally well documented experience in this
> regard. These reported profiles should have resulted in significant type 1
> DCS symptoms, or worse, which were not reported.  Since all of the
> participants of the Wakulla II project are subject to  a contractual non
> disclosure agreement it is not possible to directly corroborate facts
> associated with these dives by direct interrogation of the participating
> divers.
> 
> Up until today we lacked the definitive proof necessary to make a direct
> public accusation of fraud. This is a very serious matter for several
> reasons. For one, the results of these dives and the bottom times are being
> used to validate the operation of the Cis Lunar Mk5 CCR rebreather under the
> extreme conditions of depth and exposure time.  This validation most
> assuredly will become part of the marketing support material which endeavors
> to establish the Mk5 as the preeminent civilian electronic CCR.   Secondly,
> the intentional falsification and publication of data represents a willful
> violation of accepted scientific methods and at best is a gross breach of
> the fiduciary relationship of the Wakulla II project and it’s sponsors,
> which include the State Department of Environmental Regulation and National
> Geographic, to name a few.
> 
> The dive of January 3rd has a reported bottom time of 1hour 25 minutes.  The
> divers claim to have mapped 1200 meters of A tunnel.   The purpose of the
> dive involved mapping of the primary A Tunnel in Wakulla Springs. The divers
> reported observing the old “Lamar” bottle pinned to the line on the ceiling
> about 200ft past the D tunnel entrance. This is well known landmark of WKPP
> divers and has been left in place for commemorative purposes.
> 
> It so happens that WKPP exploration divers Brent Scarabin Rick Sankey were
> chatting with Wakulla II project director Bill Stone just prior to the
> exploration team departing for the dive into A tunnel. They made a point to
> note the departure time of the divers. When the divers returned, this event
> was reported on the dive communication link by Jill Heinreth. Jill who was
> on the platform and subsequently exited the park after noting that the
> divers had returned safely. Unbeknownst to Bill Stone this event was
> overheard by Rick and Brent. They noted the elapsed time to be approximately
> 40 minutes.  As you will note from the daily updates log on the Wakulla II
> website the actual bottom time of the dive was reported as 80 minutes.
> 
> It would also appear that the reported distance mapped has been falsified
> since it is approximately 600 metres to the “Lamar” bottle from the cave
> entrance and based on the 40 minute bottom time the dive was probably turned
> just past this bottle.
> 
> In conclusion, knowing now that at least one and possibly many of  the
> reported bottom times are false, it appears that the elapsed times from the
> surface and return to 160ft were essentially doubled to arrive at the
> reported figures.  I speak for the many members of our project in stating
> that this is disgraceful and an insult to all of us who have worked so hard
> to honestly and tirelessly support the Woodville Karst Plain Project at our
> own expense and personal risk.
> 
> Sincerely yours,
> 
> Bill Mee

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