I agree.  It's a little difficult when you're inside a 40ft high wreck.
Sometimes you stay up high because you find some nice light fixtures and
sometimes you go down low for other things.  The same can happen when
lobstering in these wrecks.  Sometimes you find big ones up high which
is great cause you get more bottom time but other times you're below the
sand line, other times in-between...

If you drew up tables that followed exactly what your plan was I agree
that a good deco program like Decom will give you better bottom time.
Done wrecks where I was only an average of 10 feet higher than my tables
and the computer calculated a better bottom time.

Art.

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Kevin Connell [SMTP:kevin@nw*.co*]
	Sent:	Wednesday, December 23, 1998 2:17 PM
	To:	Paltz, Art
	Cc:	Jim Cobb; Eric Hasson; Tech Diver
	Subject:	RE: Cochran Nemesis  IIa



	Multilevel dive planning, nitrox, and a little deco will get you
more
	bottom time than you could possible want or use on open circuit



	---------------------------------------
	Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>

	Northwest Labor Systems
	http://www.nwls.com
	---------------------------------------


	On Wed, 23 Dec 1998, Paltz, Art wrote:

	> Kevin,
	> 
	> I run tables as well with my Cochran, backup AIR Solution and
watch.
	> With lots of the wrecks that sit-up 30-40 feet off the bottom
you know
	> you'll get more bottom time by using a computer.  If you plan
to stay in
	> the sand and do it then yes the tables are fine.  I usually
run my
	> tables for the sand but dive my computer while watching the
tables and
	> backup computer to ensure things are OK.  When my Cochran is
working
	> properly it's great and I get much longer bottom times than
following my
	> tables alone.
	> 
	> Art.
	> 
	> 
	> 	-----Original Message-----
	> 	From:	Kevin Connell [SMTP:kevin@nw*.co*]
	> 	Sent:	Tuesday, December 22, 1998 6:51 PM
	> 	To:	Jim Cobb
	> 	Cc:	Eric Hasson; Tech Diver
	> 	Subject:	RE: Cochran Nemesis  IIa
	> 
	> 	What's the point then?  
	> 
	> 	You're using one really reliable bottom timer that cost
under
	> $200 and one
	> 	really complex (read: unreliable) bottom timer that cost
over
	> $700.00.
	> 
	> 	A watch and a bottom timer is all that's needed.  I
don't even
	> bother with
	> 	the watch, myself.   (but, then again, I'm not doing
those crazy
	> :25
	> 	second deep stops.. :)
	> 
	> 
	> 	---------------------------------------
	> 	Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>
	> 
	> 	Northwest Labor Systems
	> 	http://www.nwls.com
	> 	---------------------------------------
	> 
	> 	On Tue, 22 Dec 1998, Jim Cobb wrote:
	> 
	> 	> Because using a multi-nitrox computer suggests that
you are
	> deep air 
	> 	> diving... But the fact is if you tend to do long
bottom times
	> at moderate 
	> 	> depths you can go into serious deco and using multiple
mixes
	> is a 
	> 	> reasonable way to get out of the water much sooner.
	> 	> 
	> 	> Even though I use the Nitek3 I still run tables on
Decom and
	> have a 
	> 	> separate bottom timer in case the computer go's
tits-up. I
	> like the 
	> 	> flexibility the computer gives in my type of diving
even if it
	> does 
	> 	> result in longer hangs at times.
	> 	> 
	> 	>    Jim
	> 	> 
	> 	> 
	> 	> Sender: Eric Hasson  Date: 12/22/98 1:52 PM
	> 	> 
	> 	> >Why would you get flamed over that?  Besides, a lot
of the
	> feedback I have
	> 	> >received mentions the Nitek3.
	> 	> >
	> 	> >Thanks,
	> 	> >Eric
	> 	> >
	> 	> >At 09:39 AM 12/22/1998 -0500, Jim Cobb wrote:
	> 	> >>As a counterpoint to the Cochran, (and at the risk
of
	> getting flamed) I 
	> 	> >>have had good luck with a DiveRite Nitek3. It is
working as
	> advertised 
	> 	> >>and so far has been 100% reliable and this is while
beating
	> the crap out 
	> 	> >>of it wrecking and lobstering.
	> 	> >>
	> 	> >>   Jim
	> 	> >
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