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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:21:05 -0800
From: John Walker <techdive@ea*.ne*>
Organization: TechDive
To: Bill Mee <wwm@sa*.ne*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Listen Up Walker - wasRe: More USDCTisms
Bill Mee wrote:
> For the most part I have sat idly by and chosen to avoid you in the same way
> as I avoid making eye contact with vagrants and the mentally unbalanced.

  That began wene I started wearing all my stages on one side.

> Unfortunately, your profane and incoherent liturgy of invective and
> profanity has overwhelmed my otherwise tolerant disposition. 

  Gee Bill,  I had to get the dictionary out for a couple of those big
words.

 liturgy(li-tur'gi-cal)=  prescribed form of public worship   

 invective(in-vec'tive)=  abusive speech or writing, vituperation

 Unfortunately(un-for'tu-nate)=  without luck, prosperity, wealth and
the ability to see that this is a direct reflection of the nature in
which you guys display your dispositions to the community.

 Add to this a
> disturbing stream of personal insults directed at my close friends and
> colleagues and you can begin to appreciate my displeasure with the likes of
> your self.
>
  Now imagine how displeased I and many other feel when we sit behind
our screens and read the insults, to us and our friends, that you guys
have imposed on us. LOOK IN THE MIRROR BILL. Go back and read some of
the insulting stuff that you and mostly George have posted to the list.
Just because you guys have accomplished a hell of a lot in diving does
not give you the rights to treat others in the manor that you do.  You
guys seem to enjoy it so much that the person(s)who you often insult may
not even be applicants/participants of techdiver, hell some of them are
even dead.  Have you ever heard the term- what comes around, goes
around. Quit your muttering, please.

> Your most recent posting and another directed at Peter Clark are a prima
> facie example of a personality in deep turmoil.  I went back and read and
> reread your posting and can only say that you sound bitter and depressed.
> Perhaps this is a consequence of the slackening of business during the off
> diving season. Perhaps it is not.

  Business is always good in my field.  No'p, perhaps its due to reading
some of your vicious posts.

> None of this would make any difference in the slightest if you were simply
> John Doe; however it is appalling to me that you are a so called “technical”
> diving instructor empowered with the ability to potentially kill someone.

  This may come to a suprise to you.  But we're all empowered with the
ability to kill, instructor or not.  Does my dislike of your raging
insults make you feel a little nevous?  Don't be.  

> We have witnessed several instructional deaths and potential deaths during
> the past year where the instructor’s personality, mental state and
> intelligence quotient  possibly played a role in the tragedies. Your near
> complete inability to comprehend even the trivially simple DIR system is
> very disturbing. 

   Bill, if by me asking a couple simple question about your DIR system
disturbs you, than you may have your own mental stability problems going
on and it may take much longer for you to pass on you whatever
knowledge/information you may have to offer.  Never have I critisized
DIR.  I have in fact expressed my concerns with training people with
stacked stages and of exercising a requirement for the entire industry
(rec and tec) to use the WKPP cylinder marking standards.  I have been
around this industry a long time and have witnessed some of the most
heinous acts of diving leadership. I can only imagine what it would be
like pulling the flesh off of the hand of a frail water saturated corpse
and how the mind of rational man could be impacted.  Don't for one
moment think that I shun any of your diving philosophy other than the
way that you guys( mostly George) feel that you need to go about
slandering twisted lies for compliance.  I do not enjoy confrontation
and you guys bring it on continuosly (often topics without any relivence
to anyone other than yourselves).

 The problem is compounded by your continued attempts to
> reinterpret this system along with an argumentative, insulting and nasty
> attitude.

  NEVER!  Look up my name in the archives and show me where.  You
wouln't find anything of the sort.  

> When you reward them with an irrational and antagonistic outburst you
> dissuade most from any form of normal discussion.  

  Wow! now look at your own posts.  Your own buddy has opted for
irrational and antiagonistic outburst in at least 80% of all his posts.
 
> Why don’t attempt being pleasant for a change.

  Again,  what comes around goes around.  While don't you guys adopt the
idea of partnering with the technical divers/trainers instead of
insulting them. This would be pleasent. The system you push is
outstanding.  If in fact you guys are as concerned about tech training
today then work with the divers/educators instead of against them and
your findings(DIR for one)may get much further much faster.

 symbiosis(sim-bee-OH-sis)=  living together of two organisms
(organisations) of different kinds,esp.to mutual benefit.
sym-bi-ot'ic(-OT-ik)adj. <G>

   Chow,  John
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