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From: "Richard Lundgren" <rikard.lundgren@sw*.se*>
To: "Jess Armantrout" <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>,
     "George P. Wentland" ,
     "Joel Silverstein" ,
    
Cc: <Techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: SV: 80% arrrgh!! was Re: On the left
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:03:59 +0100
Jess,

Way to complicated for this guy. He will not get it. If he cant =
understand why some enjoy cave diving it got to be far to complex to =
understand lift bags, shot lines, jon line or how to use or better why =
and when he should use them.

Richard


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Fr=E5n: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
Till: George P. Wentland <wentland@ns*.ac*.no*.ed*>; Joel Silverstein =
<joelsilverstein@wo*.at*.ne*>; gwaw@ix*.ne*.co* =
<gwaw@ix*.ne*.co*>
Kopia: Techdiver@aquanaut.com <Techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Datum: den 26 november 1998 19:43
=C4mne: Re: 80% arrrgh!! was Re: On the left


>OK, once more for the slow learners, and I will type slowly so as not =
to
>lose you.
>
>In ruff seas, you are going to either be drifting or on an anchor line =
of
>some sort.  If drifting shoot a lift bag.  If on the anchor line, run a =
jon
>line, then shoot a bag.  When the five foot wave comes, guess what?  =
You
>move up and down in the water column!!! Your PO2 is constant!!! =
Magic!!!
>Wow!!! Cool!!!
>
>Once again, who is teaching this stuff?
>
>Trout
>
>----------
>> From: George P. Wentland <wentland@ns*.ac*.no*.ed*>
>> To: Joel Silverstein <joelsilverstein@wo*.at*.ne*>;
>gwaw@ix*.ne*.co*
>> Cc: Techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> Subject: RE: 80% arrrgh!! was Re: On the left
>> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 1:27 AM
>>=20
>> > 80% EAN limits you severely. 1. at 20 and 10 fsw its PPO2  is too =
low
>make
>> > it useful, at 40 fsw its too high for maximum exposure limits.
>> >
>> > 10 fsw 1.04 po2  too low
>> > 20 fsw 1.28 po2  too low
>> > 30 fsw 1.53 po2  borderline
>> > 40 fsw 1.77 po2  too high
>> >
>> > Where as 100% oxygen is
>> >
>> > 10 fsw 1.30 po2
>> > 20 fsw 1.61 po2
>>=20
>> What happens when a 5 foot wave goes over head?
>> Answer: The ppO2 becomes to high 1.76 ppO2. When that same 5 foot =
wave
>goes
>> overhead when at 30 feet on 80% it would give you 1.65 ppO2. Maybe if
>your
>> doing it right you can swim up and down with the wave action? Or =
maybe
>you
>> only DIR in caves where you don't have as many adverse conditions. =
Now I
>> just mentioned a 5 foot wave, what if its 10+ which is not uncommon =
in
>the
>> Northeast where the pizza stained Doria T-shirt strokes dive.
>> You know that if you keep putting a little more rope at the end of =
the
>line
>> eventually all your problems will be over.
>> I would like to know what inspires a man to go deeper into a cave. Is
>there
>> something back there really worth the ultimate sacrifice to see? Or =
is it
>> just the hope of fame for going deeper into a cave or deeper into the
>sea.
>> Or is this all just WKPP GOOO CRAP???
>>=20
>> Good Diving by George!!!!
>>=20
>>=20
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