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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 06:31:02 -0500
From: KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*, Harry Averill <harry@ca*.co*>
CC: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, cavers@ca*.co*
Subject: Re: Inflator Hoses
Harry, I don't interfere with how JJ teaches as he is the best, and I do
not worry about what he shows up with to dive with me, as it is always
perfect, and he is always 100%. 

I do not envy any of you dealing with students all of the time. I did a
few student dives with Cole and JJ, and they really put them through the
paces. Dealing with shut offs is a big one with them, but the situations
are controlled.

The real trick will be to get the students to routinely reach back and
check the knobs every time they get near something or go through a small
spot, as you can not feel the knob hit if the tanks do not hit - that is
where the bad suprises come in.

The bottom line is that at WKPP ( and GUE ) we are contantly going over
all of this kinds of things and looking for the best, most comprehensive
methods available. JJ , Brent and Gavin have put up with some real
stroke shit out of me when I was trying different "solutions", and as
always, the simple one was the best one. Look at the rebreather , for
example.

Keep in mind that DIN manifolds are new since those guys started diving,
and one only needs to go back to Gavin's 10 year old equipment chapter
in the NACD manual, and see Brent's picture in it. The reason JJ and I
can talk tough about all of this stuff is that we have personally done
and tried every stupitd trick in the books, and have come up DIR.

I do not worry about what the idiots out there are trying to constantly
pull on us - just ask them, "who has the end of the line", as Bill Main
likes to say - the WKPP - everywhere in every thing and in every concept
and facet of this sport. They can discuss dissention in their own ranks.
The usdct can not even get enough people involved with them to hold a
poker game, and that is because the rest of the "community " outside of
the WKPP all hate each other so much that they can not do anything
together. We are the largest , most cohesive, most productive
organization in diving right now, with 100 active and aboout 300
associated mambers in fifteen countries who are all on the same page -
DIR.


Harry Averill wrote:
> 
> George:
> 
> Please use the following to deal with those who are trying
> to use a supposed inconsistency to "prove" there is
> widespread dissension in the ranks.
> 
>       I ran into JJ earlier this week. Seeing that he
>       was still running his inflator from the
>       left-hand first stage, I decided to rib him
>       about it.
> 
>       Jarrod took the opportunity to inform me that he
>       was going to switch to putting his inflator hose
>       on the right-hand first stage -- a decision I'd
>       already made as well.
> 
>       I like to think that, with over 2,000 cave dives
>       under my belt, I have a fair amount of
>       experience upon which to draw. Nevertheless,
>       this is a drop in the bucket compared to the
>       collective experience of 100+ divers who work on
>       The Project.
> 
> BTW, I've changed the web page that whomever it was cited as
> "proof" of discord among the faithful. (Let them seek fuel
> for their heresy elsewhere.)
> 
> Also, so that you know, I checked my log after seeing your
> message. Out of 197 cave dives made over the last 365 days,
> only 90 were made in the company of students. I've seen what
> happens to instructors who do no cave diving other than
> teach. I have no desire to join them.
> 
> Harry Averill
> harry@ca*.co*
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------
> The Cave Diving Website <http://www.cavediving.com/>
> ----------------------------------------------------

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