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From: "John R. Rose" <rose@CS*.SC*.ED*>
Subject: Re: Retraining of Mount's students was Re: gas sharing and restr ictio
To: techdiver@earthlink.net (Greg Kuiper)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:48:29 -0500 (EST)
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com, john.r.strohm@BI*.co*
Greg,

Everyone that starts out with the WKPP is a defacto student.
The approach that we take is one of apprenticeship.
This means that nobody starts out over their head or moves up
the ladder until they have demonstrated their competance over a
period of time. Since nobody is making a buck doing this, there is
no motivation to premote people until they have demonstrated their
ability.

When I started out, I thought I was a big shot gas diver
since I had an IANTD trimix card. Fortunately, nobody in the WKPP
agreed with me and I had to cool my jets and learn the skills that
have gradually turned me into a competant gas diver.
There is no doubt in my mind that this retraining has made me
a much better/safer/capable diver. Also, since it was done in a
gradual fashion, without an instroketor in a rush to get his $$$$,
I have never been placed in a dangerous situation that I was not
well prepared to handle. More to the point, the retraining has
helped me to avoid such situations in the first place.

This is why we have the safety record that we have in spite of the
fact that our typical dives are significantly more complicated than
most other technical dives.

We are the best at what we do because we train to be the best at what
we do.


-John

> John Strohm,
> By your logic the gear that the cavers in Yucatan are using must be
> great because of a minimum number of incidents compared to number of
> dives.  How many tech dives occur every year without incident?  I sure
> as hell don't know but I bet its greater than triple the number of WKPP
> dives per year.  You say that WKPP have thousands of dive with no
> incidents.  How many of these involved student tech. divers?  These
> incidents that you refer to were students not experienced WKPP cavers. 
> Of course the incident rate should be low for a bunch of guys who are
> among the best at what they do.
> I disagree with your premise based on not comparing apples to apples.
> Dive safe,
> Greg Kuiper
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