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From: "Sigmund Lundgren" <sigmund.lundgren@ma*.sw*.se*>
To: "Randy Bohrer" <underwaterapplications@cs*.co*>,
     "Techdiver" , ,
    
Subject: SV:
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:21:16 +0100
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We had to sue the company in Cyprus. Still we haven't got any refund.

The unit we got was an early non-functioning unit they promised to
replace. They didn't.

Thanks for your concern,

/Sigmund
    -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
    Fr=E5n: Randy Bohrer <underwaterapplications@cs*.co*>
    Till: Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; csndc@ho*.co* =
<csndc@ho*.co*>; ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se* =
<ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
    Datum: den 10 november 1998 15:52
   =20
   =20
    Dear Mr. Lundgren:
    =20
    I am sorry to hear about your ill experience with NS Research. I was =
a dealer for them through 1997, but I found that the product was not so =
popular, primarily due to cost. Also, the delivery time was rather long. =
I had heard that others experienced delivery problems, as well as =
failures, but I had not heard of outright fraud like you describe. Mr. =
Raftis strikes me as a stand-up guy. Therefore, if you were pursuing the =
company in England and do not have the Cyprus contact information, I =
suggest that you contact him in Cyprus. The last information I have is:
    =20
    Nikos Raftis
    55 Nicodemou Mylona
    PO Box 118
    CY-1800 Paphos Cyprus
    357-6-232787
    fax 357-6-232911
    =20
    In response to Mr. Scafroth's question, anyone can check my website =
for information on this unit. I have one in stock for immediate delivery =
and will of course stand behind it just as I do any of my other =
products. This means that if you buy it and it doesn't work, I will =
repair it, replace it, or buy it back!
    =20
    By the way $3,000 is a super price (if the unit had worked). Dealer =
cost was substantially higher than this. I thought the end user price =
was $4,600, so I was offering the unit I have remaining for $4,000. I =
will entertain offers however.
    =20
    Sincerely,
    C. Randy Bohrer, President
    Underwater Applications Corp
    15 Brewster Rd
    Framingham, MA 01702-6217
    tel:  (508) 628-9520
    fax: (508) 820-3337
    email: underwaterapplications@cs*.co*
    http://www.geocities.com/~uwapplications=20

    Ingemar Lundgren wrote:
    >A major rip off and stroke gear.  I ordered one 2 years ago and =
when itfinally=20
    >arrived it did not work. I returned it to the manufacturer who =
keptit and did=20
    >not send me a refund.  3000$ right down the trash!!  The companyhad =
moved to=20
    >Cyprus when i tried to get the refund and i tried to sue thembut to =
no effect.  =20
    >Avoid them.
    =20
    >cedric scafroth wrote:
    >> I am at the moment looking into different=20
    >>mixing panels, and I'm not> sure about this ANX-Supreme fully =
automatic=20
    >>mixing stuff. If someone> knows more about this system or is using =
one please=20
    >>get back to me.>> Cedric Schafroth> NESIMA DIVE CLUB

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>We had to sue the company in Cyprus. Still we =
haven't got any=20
refund.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The unit we got was an early non-functioning unit =
they=20
promised to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>replace. They didn't.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks for your =
concern,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>/Sigmund</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Ursprungligt=20
    meddelande-----</B><BR><B>Från: </B>Randy Bohrer
<<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:underwaterapplications@cs*.co*">underwaterapplications@csi=
..com</A>><BR><B>Till:=20
    </B>Techdiver <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>>; =
<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:csndc@ho*.co*">csndc@hotmail.com</A> <<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:csndc@ho*.co*">csndc@hotmail.com</A>>; <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*">ingemar.lundgren@mbox=
301.swipnet.se</A>=20
    <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*">ingemar.lundgren@mbox=
301.swipnet.se</A>><BR><B>Datum:=20
    </B>den 10 november 1998 15:52<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><SPAN =
class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT=20
    color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Mr. =
Lundgren:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT color=3D#000000 =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT color=3D#000000 =
face=3DArial size=3D2>I=20
    am sorry to hear about your ill experience with NS Research. I was a =
dealer=20
    for them through 1997, but I found that the product was not so =
popular,=20
    primarily due to cost. Also, the delivery time was rather long. I =
had heard=20
    that others experienced delivery problems, as well as failures, but =
I had=20
    not heard of outright fraud like you describe. Mr. Raftis strikes me =
as a=20
    stand-up guy. Therefore, if you were pursuing the company in England =
and do=20
    not have the Cyprus contact information, I suggest that you contact =
him in=20
    Cyprus. The last information I have is:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT color=3D#000000 =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT color=3D#000000 =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>Nikos Raftis</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT color=3D#000000 =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN><FONT size=3D2>55 Nicodemou Mylona<BR>PO
Box=20
    118<BR>CY-1800 Paphos Cyprus<BR>357-6-232787<BR>fax=20
357-6-232911</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT =
color=3D#000000=20
    face=3DArial size=3D2>In response to Mr. Scafroth's question, anyone =
can check=20
    my website for information on this unit. I have one in stock for =
immediate=20
    delivery and will of course stand behind it just as I do any of my =
other=20
    products. This means that if you buy it and it doesn't work, I will =
repair=20
    it, replace it, or buy it back!</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT =
color=3D#000000=20
    face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT =
color=3D#000000=20
    face=3DArial size=3D2>By the way $3,000 is a super price (if the =
unit had=20
    worked). Dealer cost was substantially higher than this. I thought =
the end=20
    user price was $4,600, so I was offering the unit I have remaining =
for=20
    $4,000. I will entertain offers
however.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT =
color=3D#000000=20
    face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>
    <P><FONT size=3D2>Sincerely,<BR>C. Randy Bohrer, =
President<BR>Underwater=20
    Applications Corp<BR>15 Brewster Rd<BR>Framingham, MA=20
    01702-6217<BR>tel:  (508) 628-9520<BR>fax: (508) =
820-3337<BR>email:=20
    underwaterapplications@cs*.co*<BR><A=20
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    target=3D_blank>http://www.geocities.com/~uwapplications</A></FONT>=20
    </P></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Ingemar Lundgren <SPAN=20
    class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>wrote:</FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN =
class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT=20
    color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>></FONT></SPAN>A major rip =
off and stroke=20
    gear.  I ordered one 2 years ago and when itfinally <BR><SPAN=20
    class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>></FONT></SPAN>arrived it did not work. I returned it to =
the=20
    manufacturer who keptit and did <BR><SPAN =
class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT=20
    color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>></FONT></SPAN>not send me =
a=20
    refund.  3000$ right down the trash!!  The companyhad =
moved to=20
    <BR><SPAN class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT color=3D#000000 =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>></FONT></SPAN>Cyprus when i tried to get the refund and =
i tried=20
    to sue thembut to no effect.   <BR><SPAN=20
    class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>></FONT></SPAN>Avoid them.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT=20
    color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>></FONT></SPAN>cedric =
scafroth=20
    wrote:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT=20
    color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>></FONT></SPAN>> I am at =
the moment=20
    looking into different <BR><SPAN
class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT=20
    color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>>></FONT></SPAN>mixing =
panels, and I'm=20
    not> sure about this ANX-Supreme fully automatic <BR><SPAN=20
    class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>>></FONT></SPAN>mixing stuff. If someone> knows =
more about=20
    this system or is using one please <BR><SPAN =
class=3D970514802-10111998><FONT=20
    color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>>></FONT></SPAN>get back =
to=20
    me.>> Cedric Schafroth> NESIMA DIVE=20
CLUB</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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