I am putting words in Soo Sengs mouth hear, but I believe what he was
attempting to do was get a class together and sponsor a HALCYON instructor
to teach. This would have allowed him to get the ball rolling. The real
potential in training will be when the H2 comes out and we start converting
the A1/Dolphin market to a machine that gives the diver serious benefits. I
really hoped that we would have someone in your area up to speed by the
first of next year for that reason. The 100 hours is the minimum guideline,
some/most will probably never qualify (under our program) to be an
instructor with what the "AGENCIES" have allowed on this first go-around.
Training must be taken much more seriously than the recent examples.

RMC
-----Original Message-----
From: Phi Le <PLe@Se*.co*>
To: kirvine@sa*.ne* <kirvine@sa*.ne*>; 'RMC @ Halcyon'
<halcyon@ha*.ne*>
Cc: techdiver mail list <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; cavers list
<cavers@ge*.co*>
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: Leave bad habits behind-Deep Air, Steel Stages, Solo Buddy,
Etc.


>Robert,
>
>I stand corrected and apologize to Soo Seng if it was an honest mistake.
>
>I still would like to know how could he have offered Halcyon RB training if
>he wasn't a Halcyon instructor ? It was emphasized to me that one would
need
>at least 100 hours on the Halcyon to be qualified for the IDC. It would
have
>been difficult if one doesn't even own a Halcyon. I am just concerned that
>some non-qualified instructor could have kill me by trying to train me on
>some RB he wasn't qualified to teach. For everybody's benefits, an
excellent
>viz around Singapore is about 5-10 feet, with almost zero viz at 60 feet.
>
>Phi
>> ----------
>> From: RMC[SMTP:halcyon@ha*.ne*]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 7:17 PM
>> To: Phi Le; kirvine@sa*.ne*
>> Cc: techdiver mail list; Cost effective home improvement; cavers list
>> Subject: Re: Leave bad habits behind-Deep Air, Steel Stages, Solo
>> Buddy, Etc.
>>
>> Soo Seng did not know exactly what came with the RB. Our literature
is/was
>> rather vaque in that regard. A real piece of information will be
available
>> shortly before DEMA 99. I am sure Soo Seng had good intentions, but in
>> this
>> early phase of RB dealer/instructional infastructure development, few
have
>> what it takes-TOTAL committment to DIR.
>>
>> RMC
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Phi Le <PLe@Se*.co*>
>> To: kirvine@sa*.ne* <kirvine@sa*.ne*>; 'RMC @ Halcyon'
>> <halcyon@ha*.ne*>
>> Cc: techdiver mail list <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; Cost effective home
>> improvement <freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>; cavers list
>> <cavers@ge*.co*>
>> Date: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 12:51 AM
>> Subject: RE: Leave bad habits behind-Deep Air, Steel Stages, Solo Buddy,
>> Etc.
>>
>>
>> >And he offered free RB training if I would buy a Halcyon from him. I got
>> >suspicious when he said he would throw in the blower for free, as well
as
>> >selling me the Halcyon rig. When I went to Errol Kalayci for training, I
>> >found out that the blower as well as the wing/rig are included as
>> standard
>> >equipment in the Halcyon RB package.
>> >
>> >> ----------
>> >> From: RMC[SMTP:halcyon@ha*.ne*]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 9:15 AM
>> >> To: kirvine@sa*.ne*
>> >> Cc: techdiver mail list; Cost effective home improvement; cavers list
>> >> Subject: Re: Leave bad habits behind-Deep Air, Steel Stages, Solo
>> >> Buddy, Etc.
>> >>
>> >> George,
>> >>
>> >> You have not missed any of our graduates. Soo Seng only did a preview
>> with
>> >> the rottweiler's, Tom, and Jack, then went for a dive with the primary
>> >> turned off pulling 2.5 inches of vacuum to engage the secondary for
the
>> >> whole Hydro dive.
>> >>
>> >> He survived and was instrumental in moving us to total in-house
control
>> of
>> >> whom and how we teach. Soo Seng never came back for full training or a
>> >> unit.
>> >> He went the cis route and I guess UPS/Fed-x has saved his life on that
>> >> one.
>> >> They use the thing for diving dual in-line (one pack mule runnig at
>> slow
>> >> speed) kling-on style in 10 foot vis 30 feet deep to "sneak" up on the
>> bad
>> >> guys. I cannot stop laughing with that thought.
>> >>
>> >> RMC
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
>> >> To: RMC <halcyon@ha*.ne*>
>> >> Cc: techdiver mail list <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; Cost effective home
>> >> improvement <freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>; cavers list
>> >> <cavers@ge*.co*>
>> >> Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 8:53 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: Leave bad habits behind-Deep Air, Steel Stages, Solo
>> Buddy,
>> >> Etc.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Robert, the next time one of these idiots comes here for training, I
>> >> >want to give the final exam. If they can not explain to me why it is
>> >> >necessary to do things right, they fail.
>> >> >
>> >> >The stupidity being spread by the other agencies is embarrasing, and
>> the
>> >> >fact is it makes no sense, none of them can explain it coherently,
and
>> >> >it is no wonder since most of it is born of igorance, stupidity, and
>> an
>> >> >obvious lack of practical experience.
>> >> >
>> >> >Every day that goes by it is more glaringly apparent how dire the
need
>> >> >is for Jarrod Jablonski's training agency.
>> >> >
>> >> >I am so sick of strokes.
>> >> >
>> >> >RMC wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Soo Seng,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please remove all mention of HALCYON from your website and
>> promotional
>> >> >> literature.  I am not interested in being involved with an
>> >> >> organization that
>> >> >> takes safety issues so lightly. We (HALCYON) are interested in
>> finding
>> >> >> quality training operations that dive and understand the DIR
methods
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> will do their best to increase the exposure of a superior and
proven
>> >> >> system.
>> >> >> The dive industry has suffered enough bad press due to proven
>> >> >> stupidity such
>> >> >> as displayed in your report. I wish you knew better, you are a nice
>> >> >> guy.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Take care,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> RMC
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Phi Le <PLe@Se*.co*>
>> >> >> To: List - Technical Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> >> >> Date: Saturday, October 17, 1998 1:23 PM
>> >> >> Subject: RE: Famous WW II Wrecks
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Let me understand this right.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A bunch of IANTD Instructor Trainers are diving on air with twin
>> steel
>> >> >> 120,
>> >> >> multiple steel stages while wearing 3mm wetsuit and OMS wings,
>> taking
>> >> >> Apollo
>> >> >> scooters to 67m, deco on Nitrox 60 and 70, (may be butt-mounted)
MLS
>> >> >> lights.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And by the way, those wrecks were visited by another group of 18
>> >> >> divers just
>> >> >> weeks before taken the same live-aboard. The films of the subs are
>> >> >> with the
>> >> >> Dutch Navy.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ----------
>> >> >> > From: Khoo Soo Seng[SMTP:khooss@si*.co*.sg*]
>> >> >> > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 1998 4:52 AM
>> >> >> > To: techdiver
>> >> >> > Subject: Famous WW II Wrecks
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > IANTD SE ASIA has successfully conducted an Expedition to the
>> >> >> following
>> >> >> > famous WW II wrecks along the Malaysian Coast.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > A total of eight IANTD trainned Technical Divers (3 from
>> Singapore,
>> >> >> 2 from
>> >> >> > IANTD Sweden, & 3 from Russia) lead by Soo Seng Khoo of IANTD SE
>> >> >> Asia
>> >> >> > executed about 80 dives on the following wrecks, which was not
>> >> >> visited by
>> >> >> > any Technical Divers before.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1. Battle Cruiser - HMS "Repulse"
>> >> >> > A 242 Meter (799 ft) 32,000 Ton Battle Cruiser built in 1916
>> >> >> > refurbished in 1941 with modern Armaments to join the WW II in SE
>> >> >> Asia. On
>> >> >> > 10 December 1941, she suffered extensive torpedo hits on her Port
>> >> >> (10) &
>> >> >> > Starboard (4) sides and a 250 Kg Bomb on her deck from the three
>> >> >> groups of
>> >> >> > Japanese Torpedo-carrying Bettys. Now lies on her Port side at a
>> >> >> depth of
>> >> >> > 60 meters (200 ft). Many of her artillery were visible, i.e. The
>> >> >> 40mm Pom
>> >> >> > Pom Guns, 20mm Oerlikon Guns, & 102mm Canons. Projectiles for the
>> >> >> canons
>> >> >> > were armed and spewed in the Shell Room. Her propellers were
>> buried
>> >> >> in the
>> >> >> > sand except one is visible. No penetration dives were made. This
>> >> >> ship lost
>> >> >> > 513 lives. Captain Tennant survived.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2. Battleship - Prince of Wales
>> >> >> > This ten month old state of the art Battleship was sent to SE
Asia
>> >> >> > to show the commitments of the British during the War. She was
the
>> >> >> Command
>> >> >> > ship of Force Z. A third of its 35,000 tons of steel consisted of
>> >> >> armour
>> >> >> > plating (16" thick) and a complex system of bulkheads had earned
>> her
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > nickname of HMS Unsinkable. She suffered extensive torpedo hits
on
>> >> >> her
>> >> >> > Port (2) & Starboard (5) sides and two 500 Kg Bomb on her deck.
>> Now
>> >> >> lies
>> >> >> > completely upside down at a depth of 67 meters (220 ft). Her hull
>> >> >> looked
>> >> >> > like a huge reef. She lost 327 men. Among whom were the Captain
>> John
>> >> >> Leach
>> >> >> > and Admiral Phillips. Some of the Artillery were visible, but the
>> >> >> main
>> >> >> > Guns were either buried in the sand or may have been detached
from
>> >> >> it's
>> >> >> > base and dropped off as she sank. No penetration dives were made.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 3. Dutch Submarine - O16
>> >> >> > Launched in 1936 using the New Techniques of welding instead of
>> >> >> > riveting. She sunk more than six Japanese troopships during the
>> War.
>> >> >> On
>> >> >> > the night of 14/15 December 1941, she struck a Japanese mine and
>> >> >> sunk with
>> >> >> > all hand except Quartermaster C. de Wolf. She was under the
>> command
>> >> >> of Lt
>> >> >> > Cdr. A.J. Bussemaker. The wreck is still pretty intact. The
>> >> >> instructment
>> >> >> > at the conning tower is still there except the compass, wheel &
>> the
>> >> >> radio
>> >> >> > direction finder. The navigation lights are still firmly attached
>> to
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > sail. The periscope is down and intact. No penetration dives were
>> >> >> made.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 4. Mine Sweeper "Banka"
>> >> >> > This converted Mine Sweeper from Singapore was struck by the a
>> >> >> > Japanese mine. The wooden superstructure is a heap of rotting
>> wood.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> > front Gun is still visible. The engine room was penetrated during
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > dives.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Equipment Used
>> >> >> > 1. Dive Rite Superwing & OMS Wings
>> >> >> > 2. Nitek3 Dive Computer
>> >> >> > 3. IANTD Hard tables
>> >> >> > 4. Steel 10L & 12 L tanks charged to 232 Bar
>> >> >> > 5. Steel 120 cu.ft
>> >> >> > 6. Stages are steel 7L, & Al. 80 cu.ft
>> >> >> > 7. Poseidon Regulators (short & long Hoses)
>> >> >> > 8. Apollo DPV
>> >> >> > 9. Haskel Booster pump
>> >> >> > 10. Dive Rite Lift Bags & Reel
>> >> >> > 11. 3mm wet suit & DUI shell suit
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Dive Profile;
>> >> >> > Bottom Time; 20 to 30 minutes
>> >> >> > SIT; 3 to 4 hours
>> >> >> > Depth; between 54 to 67 meters (178 to 220 ft)
>> >> >> > Temperature Around 30'C ( 88'F)
>> >> >> > Condition Easy diving
>> >> >> > Bottom Gases used; Air & Trimix
>> >> >> > Deco Gases EAN 50, 70, 80 & 100%
>> >> >> > Camera 4 Nikonos V with 15mm lens
>> >> >> > Video 3 VH-1000 with Sea & Sea Housing
>> >> >> > Lights Dive Rite MLS & AUL
>> >> >> > Photographs will be posted at our web site when ready
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Soo Seng Khoo
>> >> >> > IANTS SE ASIA
>> >> >> > 196 Pandan Loop #06-17
>> >> >> > "PanTech" Industrial Complex
>> >> >> > Singapore 128384
>> >> >> > Tel; +65-776.7227
>> >> >> > Fax; +65-7733.239
>> >> >> > http://www.iantdsea.com
>> >> >> > email: khooss@si*.co*.sg*
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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>> >> >> Robert M Carmichael
>> >> >> HALCYON / Brownie's Third Lung
>> >> >> http://www.halcyon.net
>> >> >> http://www.browniedive.com
>> >> >> http://www.selfrescue.com
>> >> >> http://www.technicaldiving.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
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