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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:19:34 +0100
From: "Thomas A. Easop" <tomeasop@mi*.co*>
Organization: EPI
To: Wahoodiver@ao*.co*
CC: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: re six years today
Wahoodiver@ao*.co* wrote:

> Tom what I said was as a father what I might do, not what anyone else should
> do.

Yes I understand that now. I was prompted to post what I know becuase I thought
others could take it another way, which is obvious from some of these other
posts.
It was a sacrafice a father makes for a son. I had a conversation with Thornton
while we were diving the next day and he made the distinction for me. Zero's
point
about us not having sons (kids) is true and why I was quick to look at it
differently.

> For the record if you find someone on the bottom and if your not a doctor
> and are not qualified to detriment whether the diver is dead or alive,
> becareful what you do because you could get sued, yes get sued for bringing up
> a dead or non breathing diver.
>       You should be dead after 10 or more minutes plus the assent time
> underwater from 135 feet without breathing.  Unless you can get an expensive
> expert witness to say you were alive.  If you make any judgment and action
> other than what the training manuals state, proper rate of assent, keep the
> regulator in there mouth monitor the breathing, etc., (WHAT BREATHING) you
> have a very good chance of being sued.
>        As did a dive boat and crew member from New Jersey,  There crew member
> found a diver not breathing underwater with his regulator out of his mouth and
> unresponsive, not knowing another diver dragged the body to the anchor line 10
> minutes before the crew member found the diver, he  tried to get the regulator
> in the diver mouth BUT the diver could hold it because he was dead,  TOTAL
> TIME UNDERWATER 57 MINUTES from the  victims bottom timer.  The crew member
> brought the victim to 30 feet and sent the diver to the surface by inflating
> the dry suit.  The crew member had a decompression obligation starting at 30
> feet, and was sued for killing the already dead diver and the mother won a
> settlement for bring the action to court.

I was there that day The diver had subcutaneous emphasema and airway injuries
which were from a phumothorax due to the ascent. So, even if he had been alive
when he got to the deck, without doing the deco, plus his barotraumatic
injuries,
survivability would have been doubtful.. I didn't know the guy, it was the worst
experience I've ever had on a boat. Helping his friends do CPR and ready the
boat
for the helo and the look of incredulous shock I will never forget.

Tom
--
The Guns and Armour of Scapa Flow Scotland
1998 Underwater Photographic Survey of Historic Wrecks
http:www.gunsofscapa.demon.co.uk


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