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Art, I agree it hard to stay on the topic. Here we need to talk about lights and not boarding ladders. Hey, speaking of lights and boarding ladders, I really hate diveboats that have white painted transoms. I mean here you are, climbing up the ladder and what greets you but bright light reflecting off of white paint. I mean, really, what are these guys thinking? I mean your eyes are all adjusted for the gloom of underwater, you just get an instant headache. What we need on this list is a list of diveboats with white transoms so we can avoid them like the plague. Uh, what were we talking about again, Art?? Jim Sender: Paltz, Art Date: 10/16/98 6:58 AM >Why is that we can never stay on topic? I'm not trying to say anything >derogatory against any one or group. It seems in an initial message >that John responded to a comment Barry made that "none of the WKPP use >AUL lights". I assume this meant they were all using Extreme Exposure >lights? Let's stick to this topic! Are WKPP members using AUL lights, >does George? How come when certain people on the list (not singling >Barry out, I don't even know him) always change the topic then the heat >is on them? It's like answering a question with a question. > >This is the same thing that happened with the Wahoo ladder conversation. >In stead of focusing on why the Wahoo ladder was better or at least a >really good design people focused on the incorrect statement that it was >80 feet long, duh! I don't remember anyone responding that it was >really 8 feet long and asking to know why it was better. I recently got >accused of not being open-minded and jumping down someone's throat, I >think this is the same situation but from someone else. I figure that >because Barry is well known in the diving community and the WKPP that no >one will say anything. We'll I just did. > >I can't comment on the P-Valve, as I've never seen one. If it was >copyrighted and the rights were given or sold to someone to make then I >think we have a discussion. If it was never copyrighted and there were >no plans to do so then I think John can do what he want's. I'm not a >lawyer so I'm a little out of my element so I'll just shut up. I need >to get to John's site and see if he states that he's making them himself >as accused of doing so.... > >Personally I like John's web site. He's got some really great products >there and they are better prices than most anywhere else. If it weren't >for John I think it would be costing a lot of us more to dive...... > >Art. > > -----Original Message----- > From: rat@ne*.co* [SMTP:rat@ne*.co*] > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 6:18 PM > To: rat@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com; >AMERUWLITE@ao*.co*; kens@ac*.ne*; kirvine@sa*.ne*; >'JDA000@ao*.co*' > Subject: RE: faluse advertising, > > > > ---------- > From: JDA000@ao*.co* > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 5:17 PM > To: rat@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com; >AMERUWLITE@ao*.co*; kens@ac*.ne*; kirvine@sa*.ne* > Subject: Re: faluse advertising, More lies by Barry > > > I know the history between you and Arnold Jackson and the way >you had stuck > him. > > John "The Stupid Fuck" Allen > Owner John's Scuba Equipment. > > John you stupid fuck, > Do you care to explain this statement you just made? How can >I, Barry Miller, stick American Underwater Lighting with anything? Then >do you care to explain why you stole the p-valve that Jon Breazile made >to sell as you own. As you stated, you are only in this to make money. I >am trying to find out why you want to drag your dislike for me through >all this shit with AUL you are fabricating. I noticed you expanded you >header to include AUL! I am only responding to you to defend these >stories you are comming up with to try to discredit me somehow, try >again. I am still trying to figure out why you are going to all this >trouble anyway, you are just going to look like the fool you are. > You need to know that I am taking all this personally, and I >will treat you as such. I have many other things to do besides figure >out why you have started all this bullshit. > > Barry > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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