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Why is that we can never stay on topic? I'm not trying to say anything derogatory against any one or group. It seems in an initial message that John responded to a comment Barry made that "none of the WKPP use AUL lights". I assume this meant they were all using Extreme Exposure lights? Let's stick to this topic! Are WKPP members using AUL lights, does George? How come when certain people on the list (not singling Barry out, I don't even know him) always change the topic then the heat is on them? It's like answering a question with a question. This is the same thing that happened with the Wahoo ladder conversation. In stead of focusing on why the Wahoo ladder was better or at least a really good design people focused on the incorrect statement that it was 80 feet long, duh! I don't remember anyone responding that it was really 8 feet long and asking to know why it was better. I recently got accused of not being open-minded and jumping down someone's throat, I think this is the same situation but from someone else. I figure that because Barry is well known in the diving community and the WKPP that no one will say anything. We'll I just did. I can't comment on the P-Valve, as I've never seen one. If it was copyrighted and the rights were given or sold to someone to make then I think we have a discussion. If it was never copyrighted and there were no plans to do so then I think John can do what he want's. I'm not a lawyer so I'm a little out of my element so I'll just shut up. I need to get to John's site and see if he states that he's making them himself as accused of doing so.... Personally I like John's web site. He's got some really great products there and they are better prices than most anywhere else. If it weren't for John I think it would be costing a lot of us more to dive...... Art. -----Original Message----- From: rat@ne*.co* [SMTP:rat@ne*.co*] Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 6:18 PM To: rat@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com; AMERUWLITE@ao*.co*; kens@ac*.ne*; kirvine@sa*.ne*; 'JDA000@ao*.co*' Subject: RE: faluse advertising, ---------- From: JDA000@ao*.co* Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 5:17 PM To: rat@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com; AMERUWLITE@ao*.co*; kens@ac*.ne*; kirvine@sa*.ne* Subject: Re: faluse advertising, More lies by Barry I know the history between you and Arnold Jackson and the way you had stuck him. John "The Stupid Fuck" Allen Owner John's Scuba Equipment. John you stupid fuck, Do you care to explain this statement you just made? How can I, Barry Miller, stick American Underwater Lighting with anything? Then do you care to explain why you stole the p-valve that Jon Breazile made to sell as you own. As you stated, you are only in this to make money. I am trying to find out why you want to drag your dislike for me through all this shit with AUL you are fabricating. I noticed you expanded you header to include AUL! I am only responding to you to defend these stories you are comming up with to try to discredit me somehow, try again. I am still trying to figure out why you are going to all this trouble anyway, you are just going to look like the fool you are. You need to know that I am taking all this personally, and I will treat you as such. I have many other things to do besides figure out why you have started all this bullshit. Barry -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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