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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 22:09:26 -0500
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: s_lindblom@co*.co* (Steve Lindblom)
Subject: Re: teflon tape & Oxygen compatability
C. Randy Bohrer wrote:
>I don't mean to insult you, but if the Oxygen Hacker's Guide and this list are
>your only references for what to do regarding oxygen service components in a
>mixing system, you have a long difficult journey ahead of you.

Randy, I've been mixing for a couple years now as per the oxy hacker, and
no problems. After I'd been mixing a year or two I took a course from Joel
just to get a card and make sure I wasn't doing anything seriously wrong,
and it turned out I wasn't - he even commented that the Hacker was OK. I
know a bunch of other divers who learned mixing from the Hacker, and I
haven't heard of any horror stories, or even complaints.

About the time I got interested in mixing, I called you up about buying
some stuff. You gave me so much hassle about it, and, as I recall, refused
to sell me a whip or even parts because I wasn't a shop or wouldn't buy a
filter system from you too  - don't remember the details - that I went
elsewhere. That may explain why you are pulling out of the biz, and the
Hacker is going strong.

The MIXED GAS DIVING book you recommend seems to me too dated to be much
use, and I don't think anyone could start mixing, or even oxy cleaning
going just by the info in it - the book (your chapter included) is long on
theory and short on specifics.

I'm not saying this to put you down - you are one of the old timers in this
game, know a heck of a lot, and I respect your knowledge - but I think your
comments on the Hacker are more sour grapes than substance, because it gave
away   the secrets a lot of the folks in the industry were trying to keep
for the annointed.

As far as the info on this list goes, I know diving industry types like
yourself like to belittle the quality of the info here, and you don't have
to look very far for stupidities to prove the point, but it's important to
keep in mind that info on the net develops as a thread, and is largely
self-correcting. When I first came on this list, there was a lot of talk
about how O2 cleaning was for wienies - I haven't heard anyone say that for
many months now.

I do agree with you, though, from my own experience, that, while anyone can
make a whip, and probably save some money, a panel is a whole different
ballgame (I don't think even the hacker is advocating making panels from
scratch) and most people would be better off (and not much poorer) with a
ready made panel from a reliable source.

Now Randy, the truth - is that Krytox you are selling the same stuff C&H
had for $12.50 a tube?



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