Bott-

The lies you put in this post are beyond comprehension. For a minute 
there I thought it was a joke, but no, this is vintage aquafart. For 
example why would I ask you to send me a 1.5 meg random text file? When I 
sent it back to you 10 times you did not seem very happy about it, seems 
to me you should have been overjoyed by your reckoning.

And whether it you who sent me those threatening emails or one of you 
cronies is irrelevant, you orchestrated the whole attack. I have already 
called you a lying sack of shit before so I won't bother to do it again.

So your commercial web sites are better than my no-profit one. Well, 
that's impressive. So basically you are telling me that your motivation 
is purely money? Boy, what a shocker that tidbit is.

I really like this post, Bott, esp. your little tail about the heliox 
diver, what a blatant fabrication, heheheh, what a dive-god you are, 
heheheh.

 Jim

On 10/4/98 8:36 PM Bill Bott wrote:

>Jim,
>
>Once again you paint a picture that is far from the truth.  The facts are:
>
>When you first started talking about your web site I had nothing to say
>about it and have NEVER commented publicly or privately about the site.
>But I will now.  What is there is good.  However, in my opinion it is
>incomplete!
>
>I first learned that you were NOT trimix certified about this time last
>year.  That was the same time that I learned that you were "planing" your
>FIRST trimix dive.  I did comment publicly about that!
>
>Reading, collecting information, knowledge, and possessing a broad
>understanding are all different concepts.  I do not doubt that you have
>done a great deal of work on your web site.  However, I do doubt your broa=
d
>understanding of the information you are disseminating!
>
>Although I do know the city and state you reside in, I do NOT know and hav=
e
>never "published" your home address, your phone number or any sort of map
>to any place let alone your home.  I invite anyone interested to check the
>archives.  Frankly I don't care enough to even find it,  although I=EDm su=
re
>I could if I wanted to.  If your phone rang for 2 weeks straight than you
>angered someone else, I don't have time to play games with you.
>
>As for the info about your employer...  Well, let=EDs just say that was a
>lucky shot in the dark.  And you just reposted it.  If you had chosen to
>conduct your self in accordance with UUnet's "acceptable use policy", or
>like wise with mindspring, I would never have paid you any mind at all.  M=
y
>complaint was not WHAT you posted but rather the language you chose to use
>in this forum.  Keep it rated PG and that will no longer be an issue.  Rat=
e
>it X and I will encourage everyone to respond in whatever manner they feel
>appropriate.
>
>As for the mail bomb...  I sent a large file to you at your request!!!  To
>the best of my knowledge only one person I know has corresponded with you
>at all.  His were comments on how you could improve your web page.  He
>alone sent you more than the 4-5 messages you claim to have received on
>that topic.  All of them were, as my friend put it, well received.  But
>last time he checked you had not acted on his suggestions.  That is of
>course your prerogative.
>
>In short my motivation is to further the quality of information available
>to all divers.  You site is lacking!!!  Your understanding is lacking!!!
>And people are using the deficient information on your site to short cut
>the learning process.  Having never seen you in the water I will not
>comment on your skills.  However, I met one individual just a few weeks (o=
n
>a Friday night) ago that got his "information from the net".  He did his
>first four "mix dives" (they were actually heliair) about 3 weeks ago.  I
>saw him again the following Monday morning as I was leaving town.  He was
>checking out of the motel after a trip to the chamber in Marquette!!!  Do
>you see a problem with this???  I hope others are luckier than he was with
>his little adventure.
>
>
>I spent more than an hour Monday talking to this guy explaining to him WHY
>he got bent.  I am still corresponding with him to further his
>UNDERSTANDING of trimix, its applications, uses and safe decompression
>techniques.
>
>I have provided a great deal of information on this forum in the areas
>which I have a sound foundation.  I do not answer every post that comes
>along and pretend that I have all of the answers or that I can better
>answer every question that is posted.  I feel that the QUALITY of the post
>is far more important than the quantity of posts.
>
>The last thread to which I responded (Re: Cold water risk) ended the threa=
d
>and resulted in one private reply from a person I have yet to meet.  The
>reply is as follows:
>
>>Thanks for finally bringing closure to this subject in a comprehensive an=
d
>>sensible way. As usual you input is typically the last word on these
>>subjects.
>
>On the subject of who has what web sites.  Currently I webmaster TWO divin=
g
>related web sites totaling more than sixty web pages.  I do not and will
>not post the URL's to this list because they are both commercial sites.
>However, they seem to have good traffic despite that.  The more active of
>the two sites received 5227 total hits last month and more than 21,700 in
>the third quarter of this year.  I am rather disappointed that only 25
>countries are represented in those totals.  That is approximately 2 times
>the number of hits your site receives.  But I don't advertise the URL!!!
>
>Some of my other contributions to the diving community include:
>
>Diver 		Development.
>Training 	Assistance		to dive instructors across the state.
>Low cost	Repair 			and equipment maintenance.
>Informal	training			of divers.
>
>That is where the acronym DART comes from.  Just add AQUA (water) and you
>get the handle I use for my e-mail account AQUADART.  Some of my friends
>call me BULLDOG. Both you and (I know you don't know him) Greg Zambeck
>should know why.
>
>Jim, I average 80-100 dives per year many of them in conditions that would
>make your toes curl!!  I am certified NAUI Gold Master Diver (no longer
>available to few of us willing to put in the effort) IANTD trimix (within
>the first 600 certified to that level) and both NACD and NSS-CDS Cave
>Diver.  Further I plane to complete my ITC before the end of the year.
>
>Along with 5 other divers from Michigan (5 of the best divers), I have 3
>projects slated for 1999:
>
>	We plan to raise, move and resink a twin engine Piper Aztec as a part of
>one on Michigan=EDs Bottomland Preserves.  It is currently in between 180-=
210
>FFW.  No other group would take the project!!
>
>	We are working on an abandoned mine in the state as part of an educationa=
l
>project.  The mine descends, BELOW THE WATER LINE, 1,200' on the diagonal
>to a depth more than 500 FFW.  The project includes film, photo, and
>mapping in 45-degree water in an overhead environment, possibly to near
>500FFW.  The lower levels of the mine also require traversing a submerged
>section of the mine to gain access to a different shaft.  It sucks to star=
t
>your deco so far from home:-)
>
>	The third project is a cave system.  The system is not WKPP scale.
>However it is not documented at this time.  We do not know the ultimate
>depth or the length of the system at this time.  I can not supply further
>details at this time.
>
>Now tell me Chief, what are you REALY doing for the diving community???
>
>
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>
>Bill (Bulldog) Bott
>


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