Hans Petter Roverud wrote: > > At 09:49 PM 9/28/98 -0700, Esat wrote: > >> Oops, He chill factor. I don't thnk so unless U R using it in suit > >> (now tht qualifies as dumb). > >> > >> Once again: Heliox does not increase respiratory heat loss. > >> Yes Joel that is a fact. > > > > John replied: > > Esat, try diving. Their is tooo a chill factor even when you use a > >light He mix. I have noticed this while switching back to mix for my > >breaks on O2 usually within 1 minute. Its very noticable and you can > >see for yourself once you put down the tech books and go diving. > > Helium has a higher heat conductance and a lower heat capacity. This means, > helium conducts heat faster but it costs less energy to heat. Whatever gas > goes into your lungs will be heated to core temperature anyway, thus heat > capacity is the relevant number. Esat is right, it costs less energy to > heat the helium. However, John is right also in pointing out that there may > be a perception of cold. This is because helium draws heat faster, from > areas where you are able to feel it. Your mouth feels the heat loss while > your lungs don't since there are few (if any) thermo-receptors in your lungs. > > Helium equilibrates in your mouth/ upper respiratory airways while > air/nitrox draws heat from the lungs. You feel the chill of helium while > you lose more heat breathing air/nitrox, drawn from areas where you can't > feel it. Any deep diving presents respiratory heat loss problems, however, > air would have been even worse at great depths (and you sure wouldn't feel > a thing!). > > In sat diving there's a treacherous problem with heated hot water suits and > unheated gas. As long as your peripheral tissues stay warm you'll feel > warm, irrespective of your core temperature. Thus, you may go severely > hypothermic without knowing. As for oxtox, the body is not designed to > react to problems that never happen in normal life. On land, cooling > affects the periphery first. There's no need to monitor lung temperature. > As long as the skin stays warm the brain decides you're OK. Conversely, > when you draw heat from any peripheral tissue, lips/mouth included, you > sense the chill even when the cooling is insignificant. > > regards, > > Hans > Norway Obviously I am no physisist(or english major)but what I've felt goes beyond my lips and mouth. I have felt this throughout my torso. When I first entered the trimix realm I was told that He was a thermal convector only if used as an insulating gas. It sure seems to me that it removes heat from my body, most noticably wene I switch back and forth from O2-He-O2-He ect. on my deco's. I first noticed this by accident and the chill came on in about 1 minutes time. Thanks for you imput, John Walker -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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