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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:48:21 -0400
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: Narced <sid.dive@ib*.ne*>
Subject: Re: Learning to identify and minimize risk - planet of the
     apes part two
Mike,

Are you saying that divers should be taught how to do it right in the first
place, going straight into trimix theory and certification?  You mean we
don't have to teach them how to do it wrong, then how to do it right? What
a freakin novel idea!!  <insert sarcasm>

This reminds me of that Skin Diver article a few years back... Proclaiming
all the negatives of using nitrox, the author also pointed out that most
divers are to stupid to understand the theory and dive planning involved..

Then again, from what I've read from this thread so far, maybe they were
right.  

Safe Diving


At 14:55 21/09/1998 -0400, zimmmt@au*.al*.co* wrote:

>Yeah, but get the training agencies to accept this...
>
>Where is the basic heliox/mix course?
>
>I posed this question to one of the training agencies 
>recently.  I suggested that heliox, trimix wasn't
>rocket science and had some obvious benefits, especially
>over air for 100-150' wreck dives (for others as well,
>this was just my example).  I suggested that the
>current courses (many being multiple days) were totally 
>overbloated for someone who is doing these dives on 
>single/doubles on air, and simply wanted to switch to 
>mix using pre-cut or custom-cut tables.
>
>I figured at worst they might acknowledge that at least
>teaching this type of mix would help them do this type
>of dive much safer, and the teaching wouldn't need be
>that mush more strenuous than nitrox coursework.  After
>all the divers are doing these dives NOW on AIR.. why
>not teach them to do them "better"?
>
>The answer I got was not encouraging.
>
>The agencies (if for naught else than CYA motives) want
>to keep this as the brass ring, inserting hoop after
>hoop to get the mix card.
>
>You can scream about how "easy" and "simple" it would
>be for people to do these dives "right"... but the agencies
>aren't there to support it.  And while you can homebrew,
>and teach yourself without too much trouble, that option 
>makes it a lot less accessible than being able to run 
>down to a local shop that won't accept your XYZ Inc 
>certification that you laminate yourself at Kinko's.
>And certainly doesn't help ya when you are travelling even
>if you do have a cool local shop.... It also ignores 
>ecomonies of scale for renting the gas tanks, etc.
>
>Mike
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Sid.Dive@Ib*.Ne*
Toronto, Canada

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