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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:43:04 -0700
From: Garrett Weinberg <scubait@ix*.ne*.co*>
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
CC: Mat Bloedorn <mbloedorn@ya*.co*>, kirvine@sa*.ne*,
     Tech Diver
Subject: Re: Learning to identify and minimize risk - planet of the apes part two
Jim:

Once again you read what you want to read into anything.

I have always stated that:

I dive trimix
I prefer trimix.
I use trimix from 130 fsw and deeper
I teach trimix
I encourage the use of trimix among my students
I encourage my students to mix their own helium in order for them to save some
money and to encourage the increased utilization of mix

What words in the above don't you understand.

Let me repeat what I said in the e-mail:

"While we all preach the benefits of Nitrox and Helium, the vast majority of
>divers still dive on air and even nitrox trained divers dive on air becuase
>the price of nitrox is "more expensive" and the "effort more troublesome"
>than worth."

So again, what words don't you understand.

You and the rest of us on this forum constitute a very small percentage of
divers.
We may be leading edge but it ain't going to filter down the the "great
unwashed".
And, p.s., it ain't going to filter down because of a simple concept called
economics. You may not understand such a bizarre concept but it is the real
world.
Ask a dive store owner about the price of air fills.

And, the real world of economics has nothing to do with "in spite of the best
efforts of instrokters and the mainstream agencies they pay their yearly dues
to"
bullshit that you conveniently blame the lack of helium acceptance on.

So, me in my little dream world in Seattle, will just keep on doing our thing
and
educate mix divers one at a time with a high degree of safety.

Garrett Weinberg



Jim Cobb wrote:

> Boy, Seattle is a real scuba diving backwater, isn't it?
>
> Garrett, here on the Techdiver forum, we discuss such leading edge topics
> as nitrox, helium and other techniques and systems used by advanced
> divers. The trend I have seen is what is hot among the rather small group
> of stage divers is that sooner or later it filters down to the rec divers
> in spite of the best efforts of instrokters and the mainstream agencies
> they pay their yearly dues to.
>
> Adding helium to your mix is no harder than doing a tank of nitrox. And
> around here in Virginia Beach, VA, all shop offers nitrox, what would be
> the big deal to throw in some He as well? One local shop has set up their
> gas board so they can do exactly this already.
>
> You can go ahead, Garrett, and live in your little backwater dreamworld
> and state of denial, but the fact is that the rest of the world is
> realizing that narcosis is responsible for or a contributing to a growing
> number of deaths, and this is not a good thing for the industry.
>
> Personally I believe that in the next 5 years adding helium will grow to
> be as popular as nitrox is today.
>
>  Jim
>
> Sender: Garrett Weinberg  Date: 9/21/98 9:58 AM
>
> >And quess what Jim.
> >
> >While we all preach the benefits of Nitrox and Helium, the vast majority of
> >divers still dive on air and even nitrox trained divers dive on air becuase
> >the price of nitrox is "more expensive" and the "effort more troublesome"
> >than worth.
> >
> >The percentage of stores in the Seattle area that pump Nitrox is under 10%.
> >
> >The percentage of stores in the Seattle area that pump Trimix is under 1%.
> >
> >The percentage of "recreational" divers willing to invest in their own mixing
> >facilities for Nitrox or Trimix is pretty close to zero.
> >
> >That's the reality.
>
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>  Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html

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