Mailing List Archive

Mailing List: techdiver

Banner Advert

Message Display

Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:50:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mat Bloedorn <mbloedorn@ya*.co*>
Subject: RE: Deep air dive...JUST SAY NO!
To: Dan Volker <dlv@ga*.ne*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
---Dan Volker <dlv@ga*.ne*> wrote:
>
> Mat, you stupid bastard,

Duhhh,  What's up doc.....

> 
> If you want to be taught how to drift or tech dive, you're asking
the wrong
> way.


Ohhh...Ohhhh....  Please please teach me  Please, Please Please Teach
me.  Preach to me.  My mind is completely open. please fill it with
your wisdom.  My heart and sole are ready. I'm ready. We're all ready.
 Speak down from up high.  Let there be light... :-)  


> 
> And if I am going to spend time trying to explain things to you, at
least
> get straight what I have already said---I  told Mimms I would
typically use
> AIR on drift dives over thousand foot deep blue water, and that his
idea to
> use nitrox was stupid becuase too many recreational divers could
push to  O2
> tox from from bad judgement---this being FAR MORE catastrophic than
getting
> narced at 140, should they inadvertently venture that far down, eith
by
> mistake ( watching a pelagic too intently)  or a buddy's misfortune.
I also
> said I usually do these drifts within the 20 to 50 foot deep level,
in which
> air is really all you need. I only suggest 190 foot (MOD)  trimix
for dives
> I might do in the vicinity of 100 feet---but where I may need to go
somewhat
> deeper ( for a buddy or for a pelagic encounter ).
> 
>  Nitrox for recreational use belongs on shallow ( less than 80-90
feet )
> reefs or wrecks--places with hard bottoms.  Nitrox does NOT belong
on a
> Gulfstream Drift Dive over no bottom. If you can't get this straight
in your
> mind, How can I possibly teach you about mix or drift diving.
> Dan


Dan.....  Some people can actually control their depth.  There are
reasons that novice divers are encouraged not to exceed 60ft.  There
are reasons people should gain experience before attempting deeper
dives. There are reaons deep air can hurt you. There are reasons... 
There are reasons....   

However, people don't need to have baby sitters all the time.  As I
have already said privately,  I agree with the basic principle of this
thread. But there is a lot of grey area there too, places where
individuals need to make judgement calls.  It's just that.... well..
sometimes you and your pals get a little carried away Dan. That was my
point Dan.  That was it Dan.

P.S.  I was being sarcasic when I used the term "GOD of Diving". 
Sheeeech.    

Later,
  Mat.

> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Mix for an 80-90 foot wall dive is way overkill.  What mix is 190
foot
> > mix anyway?  What mix are you talking about anyway.  What END and
what
> > MOD?  It doesn't really matter though cause an 80-90 foot wall dive
> > can be accomlished on air! They been doin' that for years...
> >
> > Dan you and the WKPP should really  go ahead and get PADI etc to
just
> > teach mix from day one.  Cause the depth limit for air just keeps on
> > dropping doesn't it?  Soon the air we breath will no longer be OK,
> > we're simply gonna have to add more helium!  Here a mix there a mix
> > everywhere a mix, mix....
> >
> > Hell, let's just rid of nitrogen all together it just clutters up
the
> > periodic table anyhow!
> >
> > Everyone Hail and Praise Heliox!  All recreational divers, buy your
> > doubles, get your DIR equipment hail to the WKPP and Dan. The "Gods"
> > of diving everywhere!  No one dare enter the domain of the WKPP. 
Join
> > the WKPP or don't dive at all.  And god forbit you dive in a cave!
> > Then you really in for it!
> >
> > Later,
> >   Mat.
> >
> >

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

--
Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.

Navigate by Author: [Previous] [Next] [Author Search Index]
Navigate by Subject: [Previous] [Next] [Subject Search Index]

[Send Reply] [Send Message with New Topic]

[Search Selection] [Mailing List Home] [Home]