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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:23:47 -1000 (HST)
From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.or*>
To: "Katherine V. Irvine" <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Cc: freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*, rebreather@nw*.co*,
     techdiver , cavers@ca*.co*
Subject: Re: George's Shill - A Debunking - "Intellect Sqeeze"

> Bill Mee already debunked the horrific set of disjointed nonsense that
> Richie put out 

And Richie already made Bill look like a dope about it.

>  2) Dry suit "neck squeeze" - this is the worst bullshit since the Ian

You're not reading the thread, as is often the case.  The neck squeeze 
thing may or may not have played a role in the recent incident, but 
obviously the problem was hypoxia.  Don't waste your time or our time on 
straw men.

> Rolin death. Are we sure it was not diabetes again? When lying,
> shilling, and making up crap, try to be consistent. The guy would have
> dropped from the drysuit squeeze in the parking lot, not hours later in
> the water. If these big time divers even owned their own drysuit, which
> they do not, this could not even be used as an exucuse - you guys are
> pathetic. I am calling bullshit on this one.

What, exactly, are you calling bullshit to? The guy passed out from hypoxia,
initially because there was not enough O2 in the breathing loop, perhaps
compounded by not enough O2 in the diluent, *possibly* compounded by neck
squeeze.  If you had been following the thread like you should have been, you
would have seen that I made it clear that the neck squeeze thing was purely
of academic interest. Hypoxia was the obvious culprit. You are the only 
one trying to make it sound like anyone is claiming that neck squeeze 
was the "cause" of the problem.  It wasn't. 

> 3)  It was "rebreather squeeze" - Rebreather Squeeze is where you try to
> squeeze years of diving experience into a three day clusterfreak wtih 23
> strokes using seven rebreathers two weeks before the big time "project"
> is supposed to start. Only an "Idiot" like Bill Stone would even try
> this.

23?  Is that your best guess?  Can you name them all?  How do you know you
can call them "strokes" if you don't even know who (or how many) they are? 

Incidentally, I didn't read the rest of your message because I don't have
time to play for real right now.  I'm assuming it was the usual rhetoric, and
probably as rediculous as what you wrote above. 

Aloha,
Rich

P.S. By the way - have you finished the video on "Covering-It-Up Right" 
yet?
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