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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:54:06 -0400
From: "Katherine V. Irvine" <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: divetek@oc*.co*
CC: NAUI7874@ao*.co*, cobber@ci*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Deep air dive...JUST SAY NO!
Jim, as usual, you have no idea what you are talking about, and this
latest recommendation of yours is so stupid that I really wonder if you
need to be in this business any longer. Drop the Bret Gilliam style dive
logic and wake up. I have known you for ten years, and lately you are a
major scrwup - major . Nothing we ever did with you is as dangerous as
what you are talking and doing now. By the way, where did you get this
Bernet idiot?

If you do not understand the diffeence between dropping divers into 170
feet of water to dive on top of a wreck and diving over a wall or sloped
floor , you have a problem - a mental problem.

Teaching people to do stupid things is not cool. Teaching them to do
things safely and intelligently is. Fighting with me is a losing
proposition - I have the best track record in the sport, and everyone
knows it , and everyone knows why - because I do not do stupid things,
do not allow stupid things to be done around me, and I do not recommend
stupid things. 

Maybe you should give that a try yourself.

Ocean Diving Inc. wrote:
> 
> See how frantic the camp gets when you try to get a mix planned for a cave
> that bottoms out at 550' but you only plan to hit 200' for 30 min. You guys
> have your backs to the wall on this one. The blasphemy is hysterical.
> Alan,  The last time Derrick was on our boat was the day after Jane died.
> Stop trying to BS the list. I have no bones to pick with any of you. Call me
> if you can't get the facts.
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   NAUI7874@ao*.co* [mailto:NAUI7874@ao*.co*]
> Sent:   Tuesday, September 15, 1998 8:15 PM
> To:     cobber@ci*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com; divetek@oc*.co*;
> kirvine@sa*.ne*
> Subject:        Re:  RE: Deep air dive...JUST SAY NO!
> 
> In a message dated 9/15/98 10:53:55 PM, cobber wrote:
> 
> >On your boat do you tell the 30 diver if he sees someone in trouble to
> >just let the stupid bastard sink and head on up? Or do you care?
> 
> After Mimms' experience with that coward Derik macnullty, who did just that
> when Jane sank past him,  I would guess that Mimms does not want to go
> through
> that again. but as long as derik dives, and teaches off Jims boat we will
> just
> have to wait and see
> 
> the problem is greater than just this one boat or state, derick made the
> choice to allow a student to die and is still teaching, this could have
> happened on any boat and anywhere and the iantd instructor trainer would
> still
> be teaching. Tom Mount needs to reel this in before it gets out of his
> controll. right now he can change the standards as to how they relate to
> training dives, non training dives, and instructor disipline. with mcnullty
> one of Toms (and Mimms') biggest problems is dericks personality, like
> clinton
> he can sell you a shit sandwich and you would be happy to buy, and eat it.
> Tom
> needs to seperate himself from derick and see the problem though unclouded
> eyes.
> 
> in all my dealings with derick the opinion I have formed is of a very
> charming
> person with major personality/ character flaws, to me he is a lying,
> thiefing
> killing machine.
> 
> Tom is the big boy on the block and needs to step up and act like it.
> 
> time will tell
> but hopefuly before another is killed...
> 
> Alan Pelstring
> s fl


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