Mims, do you stick these people in steel tanks and bondage wings, or do
you have them dive the proper gear ? Have fun with that one.


Dan Volker wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> 
> Blue water dives do not require 100 foot depths. 30 or 40 feet is plenty.
> For this, air would be my choice. Most of the time I do this stuff, I
> freedive it---no tank at all, drop to 20 to 50 feet, and just hang in the
> collumn.
> Nitrox would be impractical here for many reasons. Particularly for the
> recreational diver whose depth monitoring skills are "challenged" at best,
> even on a wall dive, a nitrox mix which limits them to 80 or 100 feet is
> dangerous at best. If they "think" they can do 90, they may end up at 140
> after only a few moments of watching a big pelagic.  If the concept or plan
> of the dive was to do 80 to 100, then  190 foot trimix would be a smarter
> plan.
> Regards,
> Dan
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ocean Diving Inc. [mailto:divetek@oc*.co*]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 3:05 PM
> > To: Dan Volker; Jim Cobb; kirvine@sa*.ne*
> > Cc: techdiver
> > Subject: RE: Deep air dive...JUST SAY NO!
> >
> >
> > Dan,
> > What gas do you use on the Gulfstream drift dives? Why? What's the
> > difference? They are a lot of fun and recreational divers are
> > doing them all
> > the time. Recipe for a good time if done correctly, right. Don't
> > forget, we
> > are talking recreational divers here. Max depth 100'. Bottom time 30
> > minutes. Sea floor 1/2  mile below. Big critters, great vis, warm
> > water, you
> > know the rest. Have some fun with this one.
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Volker [mailto:dlv@ga*.ne*]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 11:33 AM
> > To:   Jim Cobb; divetek@oc*.co*; kirvine@sa*.ne*
> > Cc:   techdiver
> > Subject:      RE: Deep air dive...JUST SAY NO!
> >
> > Jim,
> > Seems the Dereck McKnulty connection rears its ugly head
> > again---apparently
> > rescue of buddies is operationally ignored.
> >
> > While Mimms would most likely help his buddy and risk the Ox tox, this
> > mindset of planning for yourself only, is one root cause of deaths which
> > will continue to plague IANTD until they adopt DIR.
> >
> > Dan Volker
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 6:01 PM
> > > To: divetek@oc*.co*; kirvine@sa*.ne*
> > > Cc: techdiver
> > > Subject: RE: Deep air dive...JUST SAY NO!
> > >
> > >
> > > One thing you are forgetting, Jim. You have removed yourself from the
> > > available divers who could help someone who had trouble and sank to the
> > > bottom. You you went for it you would be at 1.8 - 1.9 PPO2 and under
> > > stress, a recipe for disaster.
> > >
> > > On your boat do you tell the 30 diver if he sees someone in trouble to
> > > just let the stupid bastard sink and head on up? Or do you care?
> > >
> > >  Jim
> > >
> > > On 9/15/98 2:03 PM Ocean Diving Inc. wrote:
> > >
> > > >Did you here the one about the guy that did all of his deco on
> > bottom mix
> > > >because he was afraid that any other mix might put him in a hot mix
> > > >situation during deco if he failed to be responsible for his buoyancy
> > > >control? He thought it was too dangerous to use 100% O2 at 20' by what
> > > >kirvine implies. Now wall dives on Nitrox are off limits cause
> > some dork
> > > >might end up needing Trimix while attempting a recreational
> > wall dive. At
> > > >least in the Caymans a diver can swim towards shore and park on
> > > the sand at
> > > >20' so he can switch to 100% O2 and not worry about high po2's eh? Use
> > > >common sense and you will figure out what's up with this thread.
> > > >Semper Deep,
> > > >Capt. Jim Mims
> > >
> > >
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