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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:04:30 -0400
From: "Katherine V. Irvine" <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: "Alan D. Secor" <secor@bt*.ib*.co*>
CC: 100420.252@co*.co*, techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: The Record Dive
Alan, it is always an asshole like you who has to go to the lowest level
to try to win an argument with me when you have no leg to stand on.
Wolov was not one of us, but he was our friend. He just liked to dive.
He was a Naval aviator and a doctor, a pathologist , who supplied me
with invaluable human physiology information from real cases that
allowed me to make informed decisons on the safety of my team and the
limits that to which I could reasonably expect to push these kids (
after trying it on myself). 

 This is the kind of information that I have and will not share with a 
scumbag like you or your beloved diving community ever due to your
attitude.

 Wolov made a bad move - put his gear back on when either a proper
redive or an instant freedive was in order - he died to save a mask.
He was not teaching deep air, he was not killing some dive student for
300 bucks, he was enjoying a dive on a vactaion to Scotland with his
family while visting his freinds. He qas not smoking pot or out drunk or
seing how deep he could go on the wall, or sturting around flashing his
TDI instructor asshole card or anything else.

 You are a complete piece of shit for even mentining Commander Wolov,
and I am sure the 100 or so people whom I know to also be his freinds
will think the same way of you.

 Once again the dogshit like you proves me right: you and your ilk
deserve nothing but the contempt with which I treat you. When I put out
a dive report, it it "beating my chest " to you. That is because it
contrasts not with what you do, but with HOW you do it. That is the
difference, and that is the problem. You guys keep jerking everyone
around, and sooner or later they find out who we are and how we do it,
and then the bullshit looks like bullshit - you look like bullshit, just
like you look like bullshit when all you can do is criticize me for the
accidental death of a friend who supplied me with technical information.


Alan D. Secor wrote:
> 
> George, I don't think anyone refuses to recognize your records....what
> we do get "sick" of is the fact that you and your group constantly
> throws it in our face while beating your chests and putting everyone else
> down!
> 
> How many times have you put someone down, saying they are "know nothings"
> and "do nothings", since YOU are the one who does it deeper, further,
> better, etc...than anyone else.  You are the ONE who holds the "end of the
> line"!!!
> 
> What I say is BFD!!!  Sure, you've got the experience but that doesn't
> mean
> that people that don't have the "same" experience as you are worthless and
> have nothing to contribute!  You and your group are always first to jump
> on
> dive casualities, labeling the diver as a STROKE and saying they weren't
> DIR!!!  Well....you seem awful quiet about your buddy Rob Wolov.  Is that
> because he was one of the "anointed ones" and therefore could not have
> possibly been at fault for his accident???  (This comment is in no way
> meant
> to put Rob down....I know we all feel sad about the loss).
> 
> Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that, sure, we all know you hold all the
> records....it's just that if you want to be recognized and praised, try
> the cotton treatment to your mouth and show a little humility and maybe
> you will start to get the recognition you seek and deserve!!
> 
> Al
> 
> >Reinhard, the problem is not with Isler, he knows the score, as do
> >you, the problem is with the consistent and persistent bullshit out of
> >eveyone else. We hold the record, we have always held the record at
> >depth, and we have four records in excess of Islers' best effort ever
> >only 200 feet deeper and a freaking mile further.
> >
> >  I get real sick of the fact that nobody ever seems to want to
> >recognize this, or recongize that NOBODY on this planet does it deep and
> >long like us, and nobady but us has done it deep, long, and on SCUBA as
> >well as rebreather. We have all of those records, and as you know, Isler
> >is the one who got me to dive the freaking RMV driven rebreather in the
> >first place, and I got him to use my scooter.
> >
> > You know the story, I know the story , anyone in the know knows the
> >story, but the raging cast of blithering idiots in diving out there does
> >not, and I am just plain sick of it, and sick of reading the slobering
> >crap that goes with it. Next we will hear the Bill Stone has the record
> >when he goes to Wakulla and swims around the basin with his rebreather.
> >
> >
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> 
> --
> Alan D. Secor
> e-mail: secor@bt*.ib*.co*


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