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>Alan, your anger toward George Irvine has clouded your reasoning.  
>
>What more do you believe needs to be said about Rob Wolov's death?
>The preliminary info presented here certainly seems to suggest he 
>made a terrible error in judgement getting in the water without
>enough gas and perhaps without a clear head (the report made it
>sound like he was rushing and not making his decisions carefully).
>The lessons we can take away from this are clear, and need little
>elaboration.  Nobody has said that getting in the water without 
>enough gas is a good idea, and nobody has said that getting in
>the water without thinking clearly is a good idea, so there is 
>no need for contention on these points.
>
>The dive fatalities George and others "jump on" are an entirely 
>different story.  The lessons to take away from them are apparently 
>*not* clear to all, as agencies and manufacturers continue to 
>promote the gear/behavior that directly lead to these fatalities.  
>To anyone with a healthy respect for others' lives, that willful 
>ignorance necessitates contention.  
>
>If you don't like George's approach to this, fine.  Tell him 
>privately and get on with your life.  It's really shortsighted to 
>ignore or obscure his message because you don't like the delivery, 
>however.  You've really got to keep your priorities straight.
>
>- Todd
>
OK...maybe I did get a little carried away bringing up Rob Wolov's
death....it really had nothing to do with the main content of my 
message.  It's just that with all the talk lately of "bondage wings"
etc, (and no I don't own a set) it seems if Rob's accident was 
someone not known to Techdiver, then "the usual suspects" would 
probably be jumping up and down saying he must have been wearing those
and that's why he didn't make it back to the surface or some such.

With regard to putting people down who have valid experience (but not in
caves) I was thinking more in terms of Rich Pyle and his CIS Lunar
experience.  Valid experience but readily dismissed because he doesn't
have "the end of the line" in some cave.

If I may, I take back the comments with respect to Rob but stand behind
the rest of my comments regarding recognition.  AGAIN, I'm NOT talking
about the delivery of the DIR concept!!!  There are arguments pro and con
with the method of it's delivery.  What I was commenting on was George's
comment about NOBODY wanting to recognize the WKPP with respect to their
achievements.  The biggest negative I can come up with are the ego's and
chest pounding and put downs of anyone who tries something similar.  What
else could be the reason???

And BTW, I WILL get on with my life regardless of what the WKPP does 
or does not do.....it doesn't affect me either way.  It's just that one
can only listen to so much whining before one has to point out the 
obvious.

Al
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Alan D. Secor
e-mail: secor@bt*.ib*.co*


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