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Dan, Bungee is dangerous because, in case you have a BC failure, the bungee will deflate your wings before you have time to do anything. I´m not sure OMS wings are still bad without the bungee. I do think they´re way too big. Fully inflate one and you have a raft. That adds drag. Dive safe, Carlos Arruda Accioly DEnig@ao*.co* on 09/02/98 09:10:10 PM To: cobber@ci*.co* cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com (bcc: Carlos Accioly/Ipanema/isa) Subject: Re: Bondage wings Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated 9/2/98 10:43:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cobber@ci*.co* writes: > have used both regular and bondage wings and the fact that stuporwings > are dangerous travesties of design and implementation is as obvious as > the nose on my face. So tell me. I'm asking. WHAT are the travesties of design and implementation? Specifically. Having never seen you, I don't know how obvious the nose on your face is. Please spell out these dangerous differences. Say I take the "bungee" off my wings. What then? From that point on, WHERE is the difference between my OMS single bladder wing and any other single bladder wing out there? From a use stand point I have found my OMS to be more stable (IMHO) and they work for me. Come on. Pretend it's a court room. Don't just tell me they are bad with or without "bungee". Show me, so that I can see the light. I am not trying to be sarcastic I am really trying to understand this. > Another fact is that at least a dozen divers I know have shit-canned > their bondage wings, even at huge $ losses. And you know what? I did not > say a word to them as they are intelligent people and managed to figure > it out for themselves. Every time I get on the dive boat I see fewer and > fewer bondage stupor wings. How do you explain that? I can't explain it. That's why I'm asking. Other than the "bungee" which I have not found to be a problem, I don't see a difference. And, the bungee can be installed or, later removed if the end user so desires. And, if I find that it really is a problem, I have no qualms about going with something else that isn't. > So what is *your* problem? You have a choice of a steak sandwich or a > shit sandwich, and you choose the shit sandwich everytime. And not only > that, you sit there and try to convince me and others that the shit > sandwich tastes great. It don't fly with me, brother, whats *your* agenda? > > Jim My problem? I don't have a problem nor do I have an agenda Jim. Just seeking information. And I don't sit there choosing a "shit sandwich" every time. Nor do I particularly care to convince others. I'm willing to learn but not from chest beaters who proclaim "Look at Me, Look at Me. I am the Authority! What I promote is good and all others are mere junk before Me." I simply ask for information. Informed and accurate. Show me the difference so that I may judge for myself, based on the merits of what is placed before me. As I have said before, what I have works for me. As long as it does, fine. If what I have is bad or has the proved potential of being bad, I will ditch it in favor of something else. And I'll ditch it in a heartbeat. While I'm at it, let me point out some other things. I have no desire to cave dive. Ever! I have no desire to push the limits and do 250' plus dives. I'd rather spend longer at shallower depths and explore more at that level. If I can do a dive to 100' or 130' and spend longer on a wreck, to me (me alone I do not speak for others) that is sufficient. I have no agenda Jim. Again, I seek only information so that I might be better informed. And on some issues, you (yes you) have actually provided that. But, if you can't provide it without questioning motives and mildly slamming, then kindly "butt out" and let someone else, someone kinder, gentler i.e. more of a teacher, do so. I get enough aggravation at work from my Boss and scumbags. I don't need it here too. Dan ******************** Press hard it's 5 copies............ -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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