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Does any one have any stats or is this just all complete BS spread about to justify *your* opinions?? I have *never* had a problem with the bungees, and have orally inflated several times. If you cant cope with blowing to fill them then maybe you're not fit enough to dive!!! -----Original Message----- From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> To: DEnig@ao*.co* <DEnig@ao*.co*> Cc: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Date: 02 September 1998 15:34 Subject: Re: Bondage wings >I have used both regular and bondage wings and the fact that stuporwings >are dangerous travesties of design and implementation is as obvious as >the nose on my face. > >Another fact is that at least a dozen divers I know have shit-canned >their bondage wings, even at huge $ losses. And you know what? I did not >say a word to them as they are intelligent people and managed to figure >it out for themselves. Every time I get on the dive boat I see fewer and >fewer bondage stupor wings. How do you explain that? > >So what is *your* problem? You have a choice of a steak sandwich or a >shit sandwich, and you choose the shit sandwich everytime. And not only >that, you sit there and try to convince me and others that the shit >sandwich tastes great. It don't fly with me, brother, whats *your* agenda? > > Jim > >Sender: DEnig@ao*.co* Date: 9/2/98 5:12 AM > >>In a message dated 8/31/98 2:55:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >>cobber@ci*.co* writes: >> >>> IMHO bungees of any kind are just marketing fru-fru. They are not needed >>> and do nothing to improve your dive. The units out by ScubaPro and >>> DiveRite can be de-bungeed without any problem. And at least they won't >>> kill you if you leave the bungee on as they are designed to merely hold >>> in the slack rather than to "power-deflate" your wings. The OMS >>> stuporwings are a total loss, completely useless either bungeed or >>> unbungeed. >>> >> >>And yet, no one can say what the problem is with the OMS except that the >>"bungee" kills. >>Well, OK. Kathy has a good question. Let's have someone give an honest >>answer. >>For that matter, answer this too. If I take the "bungees" off my OMS single >>bladder (100#) wings, exactly what is the difference between it and the "so >>called" safer brands? Is it Cosmetics? or Brand snobbery? on a serious >>note...is it material used? or some internal design not readily apparent? >>What >>exactly, other than looks, is the difference? My wings don't have problems >>with dump cords run thru "channels." Even with the "bungee" on, I can inflate >>well past one or two breaths so I'm sure I didn't overtighten but hey, I can >>take them off and dive without. My inflator works just fine and is maintained >>just like any other inflator would be. My OMS accepts an SS plate and I can >>dive it w/single cylinder or doubles. I get a good amount of lift. Just >>exactly where is the problem? With the "bungee" left off, is it in reality, >>price? Style? Brand? I mean, I dive a single bladder OMS with zero, zilch, >>nada, nyet problems. If I ever find that the "bungee" is really a problem, >>I'll take em off (except for at the top cause I think wire wraps to keep it >>off the neck like was suggested, is not safe) so at that point, where is it >>different from the rest? >>Come on now. My mind is open I'm willing to listen. I'm willing to try and >>duplicate any problems in a controlled situation so that I too may see. But >>absent any proof, I'm not willing to dump my OMS and run with something else. >>Sheesh people. If I went into court to prove my cases with the same effort >>others have made to "prove" OMS wings are bad I'd end up with a conviction >>rate of 1 to 99 instead of 99 to 1. (And it's actually better than that cause >>I loose on average 1 in 350 to 400 and that includes radar cases) >>Dan > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html > > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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