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Does any one have any stats or is this just all complete BS spread about to justify *your* opinions?? I have *never* had a problem with the bungees, and have orally inflated several times. If you cant cope with blowing to fill them then maybe you're not fit enough to dive!!! >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >To: DEnig@ao*.co* <DEnig@ao*.co*> >Cc: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >Date: 02 September 1998 15:34 >Subject: Re: Bondage wings > > >>I have used both regular and bondage wings and the fact that stuporwings >>are dangerous travesties of design and implementation is as obvious as >>the nose on my face. >> >>Another fact is that at least a dozen divers I know have shit-canned >>their bondage wings, even at huge $ losses. And you know what? I did not >>say a word to them as they are intelligent people and managed to figure >>it out for themselves. Every time I get on the dive boat I see fewer and >>fewer bondage stupor wings. How do you explain that? >> >>So what is *your* problem? You have a choice of a steak sandwich or a >>shit sandwich, and you choose the shit sandwich everytime. And not only >>that, you sit there and try to convince me and others that the shit >>sandwich tastes great. It don't fly with me, brother, whats *your* agenda? >> >> Jim >> >>Sender: DEnig@ao*.co* Date: 9/2/98 5:12 AM >> >>>In a message dated 8/31/98 2:55:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >>>cobber@ci*.co* writes: >>> >>>> IMHO bungees of any kind are just marketing fru-fru. They are not needed >>>> and do nothing to improve your dive. The units out by ScubaPro and >>>> DiveRite can be de-bungeed without any problem. And at least they won't >>>> kill you if you leave the bungee on as they are designed to merely hold >>>> in the slack rather than to "power-deflate" your wings. The OMS >>>> stuporwings are a total loss, completely useless either bungeed or >>>> unbungeed. >>>> >>> >>>And yet, no one can say what the problem is with the OMS except that the >>>"bungee" kills. >>>Well, OK. Kathy has a good question. Let's have someone give an honest >>>answer. >>>For that matter, answer this too. If I take the "bungees" off my OMS >single >>>bladder (100#) wings, exactly what is the difference between it and the >"so >>>called" safer brands? Is it Cosmetics? or Brand snobbery? on a serious >>>note...is it material used? or some internal design not readily apparent? >>>What >>>exactly, other than looks, is the difference? My wings don't have problems >>>with dump cords run thru "channels." Even with the "bungee" on, I can >inflate >>>well past one or two breaths so I'm sure I didn't overtighten but hey, I >can >>>take them off and dive without. My inflator works just fine and is >maintained >>>just like any other inflator would be. My OMS accepts an SS plate and I >can >>>dive it w/single cylinder or doubles. I get a good amount of lift. Just >>>exactly where is the problem? With the "bungee" left off, is it in >reality, >>>price? Style? Brand? I mean, I dive a single bladder OMS with zero, zilch, >>>nada, nyet problems. If I ever find that the "bungee" is really a problem, >>>I'll take em off (except for at the top cause I think wire wraps to keep >it >>>off the neck like was suggested, is not safe) so at that point, where is >it >>>different from the rest? >>>Come on now. My mind is open I'm willing to listen. I'm willing to try and >>>duplicate any problems in a controlled situation so that I too may see. >But >>>absent any proof, I'm not willing to dump my OMS and run with something >else. >>>Sheesh people. If I went into court to prove my cases with the same effort >>>others have made to "prove" OMS wings are bad I'd end up with a conviction >>>rate of 1 to 99 instead of 99 to 1. (And it's actually better than that >cause >>>I loose on average 1 in 350 to 400 and that includes radar cases) >>>Dan >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html >> >> >>-- >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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