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From: "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*>
To: <CaptnDale@ao*.co*>, <ejsadler@pa*.ne*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: A Call to Arms
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:40:41 -0400
Capt Dale,
The guy who was supposed to be a DIR instructor needs to be named----none of
us give or gear up new open water students with DIR configured doubles and
let them go----its just not within DIR.

I have no doubt we will see many mfg's and dive shops "CLAIMING" they are
DIR, as it may help drive sales.
We may need to keep a list of who in fact is DIR.

Dan Volker

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CaptnDale@ao*.co* [mailto:CaptnDale@ao*.co*]
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 1998 8:10 PM
> To: ejsadler@pa*.ne*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: A Call to Arms
>
>
> In a message dated 98-08-31 18:21:44 EDT,
> ejsadler@pa*.ne* writes:
>
> << Nice bullshit story.>>
>
> I wish it were, but I have no reason to make this up.
>
>  << No DIR instructor would ever recommend a hip weight, as it is not
> needed.>>
>
> I don't know if a DIR instructor recommended the hip weight,
> but he did,
> indeed have one.
>
>  <<A DIR instructor would have sold him the proper amount of
> lift for the
> rig.>>
>
> Yes, I would think so, if he took the time to truly train him.
>
>  <<If a V-Weight was used, so was a drysuit. Plenty of lift
> to support the
> rig.>>
>
> Now, you are making an assumption.  I never said that they
> were using dry
> suits.  In fact, they were using 7mm wet suits.  Obviously,
> dry suits are the
> proper suits to wear with this rig.  Why did not this DIR
> instructor tell
> these divers this?  Why did he put them in this equipment
> without supervision?
>
>  <<The long hose, even if spit out of your mouth, doesn't
> magically come
>  unwrapped.>>
>
> This was a rank beginner.  She lost the regulator as she
> jumped in the water.
> The hose came off her head due to the collision with the
> water's surface.
>
>  <<It is simple for anyone with hands to thread the buckle
> either way through
>  the crotch strap.>>
>
> Again, this was a rank beginner, she was rolling around in
> the water, half on
> the swim platform, holding on to the trail line in which she
> had managed to
> entangle herself and all involved were wearing thick gloves.
>
>
> << It is very clear you've never dove anything remotely close
> to a DIR rig,
>  and from the sound of your tale, you've proabaly never even
> seen one.>>
>
> I am quite familiar with the DIR rig.  In fact, it is my preferred
> configuration.  I am certainly not arguing against the DIR
> system.  It is
> probably the best configuration for technical diving yet
> devised.  I just do
> not think Novice Open Water Divers should be indroctinated
> into something that
> they are not trained for, not ready for and do not
> understand.  It is quite
> obvious that these divers only got part of the story - they
> need someone to
> lead them through the rest of it not just feed them half the
> story, sell them
> the a bunch of expensive equipment and let them go out and
> kill themselves.
>
>  <<Get a clue, get a life.
>   Stop propagating your tired old useless great lakes wreck
> diving bullshit
>  yaya gear.>>
>
> Have I been promulgating anything but DIR gear for technical
> diving?  I think
> not.  What I am suggesting is that divers who want to
> progress on to technical
> diving need to find a good instructor to guide them, not just
> someone who
> wants to beat the drums for a particular philosophy, no
> matter how good,
> without taking the time and effort to do the real job of instruction.
>
>  <<Been there, done that. Grew up. >>
>
> I'm glad for you.
>
> What is next?  Are we going to start selling Halcion
> rebreathers mailorder to
> anyone who can pay for them because they are the only ones
> that are any good?
> I hope that no one would do that.
>
> What is so difficult to understand here?  The ONLY point of
> my post was that
> technical instruction is required for technical diving.  I
> was not attacking
> the DIR system.  I WAS attacking the practise of selling
> technical gear to
> anyone with the money to buy it without staying around to
> provide adequate
> training.
>
> Safe diving to you,
> Cpt. Dale Bennett
> Captain Dale's Dive Center
> Enterprise Marine Dive Charters
> CaptnDale@ao*.co*
> www.captaindales.com
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