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From: "Karl Kramer" <Karl.W.Kramer@ph*.un*.de*>
To: John Brett <John.Brett@pi*.co*>
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:12:41 +0000
Subject: RE: Scubapro
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Hi John,

> So, on this logic, we need different valves for Argon cylinders - after all,
wouldn't want the
> oc-air-diver to breath it.

DIN for Argon is R21,8 x 1/14" (nic-named 1/2").

> Different valves for Oxygen, high fO2 Nitroxes, 

High-fO2 Nitroxes have the same handling rules as Oxygen,
so it is no risk to use Oxygen-Valves for Nitrox.
Anyone who uses those Valve-Systems should be expected to know what he does,
so no hopefully chance to hang you...

> low fO2 Nitroxes (after all, the regs don't need to be O2-clean), Trimix ...

Low-fO2 Nitroxes (e.g. EAN-32) have the same handling rules as Oxygen in many 
nations, so just use Oxygen-Valves...

Trimix won't blow up the diveshop when a silly air-diver screws before reading,
so no risk to use Air-Valves (i hope).

> Its a slippery slope, lined with our dollars.

No, the prices are similar, so when you use the correct type of DIN-Valve you
will barely 
spend more dollars than if you use dangerous ones.
 
> >So please do not bring things/ideas to the mass-market that are only save
when diving in 
> >specialist-groups. By the way, i do not like that Scubapro-Valve, 
> >i prefer the old german 3/4" oxygen-valve, i think it is more robust. 
> 
> What's wrong with DIN?

Nothing, but think about drunk teutons trying to screw oil-dipping R5/8"
Regulators on 
everthing that looks like a beer barrel
and use the R3/4"-DIN-Valve for EAN32 - "EAN100". 
It is ulta-cheep to transform a regulator to an other Typ (Code-thread) of
DIN-Connector, 
I got my Oxygen-threads for free from my local gas dealer.

Happy Diving

  Karl

A (sometimes drunk) Teuton
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