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Bill, what is wrong with these guys is that they will never understand what has gone into getting everything right. Starting with Exley and continuing through George and the WKPP, you guys have figured this all out and noone wants to believe it. People like this are on the low end of the IQ scale and bottomfeeders of the gene pool. They will not understand until they kill themsleves. Erik >From wwm@sa*.ne* Mon Aug 31 18:50:04 1998 >Received: from simba.safari.net (simba.safari.net [206.96.248.2]) > by zen.kr.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA12371 > for <cavers@ca*.co*>; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:25:54 -0400 (EDT) >Received: (qmail 22057 invoked from network); 1 Sep 1998 01:35:18 -0000 >Received: from annex3-13.safari.net (HELO wwm) (206.98.157.123) > by simba.safari.net with SMTP; 1 Sep 1998 01:35:18 -0000 >Message-ID: <004301bdd548$c2ff1320$b0d6fea9@ww*.sa*.ne*> >From: "Bill Mee" <wwm@sa*.ne*> >To: <Rubrifolia@ao*.co*>, <Kevin@So*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >Cc: <cavers@ca*.co*>, <kirvine@sa*.ne*> >Subject: Re: A Call to Arms >Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:35:08 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 > >Oh Rubrifolia ......, > >Rubrifolia wrote: > >>I am very leary of the concept that DIR is absolutely the only way to >>go.....yes, it is a series of tools and methods that have been very well >>thought through and tested....albeit towards a very narrow application of >>diving..... > >Would you call cave diving, ocean diving, drift diving, mixed gas diving, SC >rebreather diving, scooter diving and wreck diving collectively a "narrow" >application? > >> it has also been very vigorously, aggressively, promoted by people >>who have very large agendas > >In other words you have a big problem with the WKPP. Maybe we're missing >something here. I think you need to stop beating around the bush and tell us >what is wrong with having a socalled agenda in favor of safety, against >foolish and proven dangerous practices and in favor of a team oriented dive >philosophy. The basis for DIR is that you dive as part of a team and your >team is an essential part of your life support system and vice vera. What's >your problem with that agenda? > > >>however, there are other types of divers >>equally skilled at acheiving their goals who put equally intensive thought >and >>work into their gear and technique....they simply have not chosen to say >that >>they are the only ones who have the right way...... >> > >The above is a creative way of describing "personal preference". Personal >prefrence is one of the most dangerous and insidious attitudes in diving and >eventually this mindset will get you or your buddies killed. Personal >preference is the hallmark of a stroke. > >BTW is Rubrifolia some sort of dermatological disorder? > >Best regards, > >Bill > >(thats fine, again this is the 20th cent, but >>awareness is a good thing)...the information on its failures and gaps are >>I am afraid of the need to label instructors and dive shops co-conspirators >in >>murder.....yes, yes, from what I have read, some people have shown gross >>negligence and neglect, but to call that murder--althou satisfying--I feel >>will end up causing more damage than good as a whole..... >> >>How many people have died climbing Mt Everest in the last couple of years, >Mt >>Ranier?? There seems to be in the national psyche a need to 'explore' >further >>and further--to push further and further and to believe that all this >improved >>technology and just plain stuff will keep us safe or safer from the base >>elements that are there..... >> >>Divers have all these gear advancements and choices now to make. It used >to >>be just the Navy tables and a couple of different types of tanks.....but >not >>now, and its all the safest and the best.....so lets keep adding all of it >>on......in a pool and in a quarry or in a place where you perceive yourself >>safe--where outside elements cannot come in---the thought process to make >the >>materials work can bump along, one can say...'oops, not that way, this >>way'....which in turn starts to cause a chain reaction....but at depth (and >it >>is fairly unbelievable how different things are--even on mix--at depth,a >point >>that cannot be emphasised enough)..... the process has to be able to flow >>along----ones knowledge and appreciation of ones gear, ones own responses >to >>potentially overwhelming stresses, ones actions, and, equally important, >the >>reaction to the actions, have to be able to simply flow without >>impediment.....that only comes from experience and experience only comes >from >>time spent in the metier.......and that awareness can only come, if not >from >>ones own self, than other people out there doing the thing that one wants >to >>do.... >> >>There seems to be this general lack of awareness of how fast task loading >and >>stress can overload your system..... >> >>So, when you wanna become a diver, you make yourself part of some sort of >>community, you annoy the hell out of the rest of your family and friends >>because you basically dissapear off the map of human relations while the >>season is on and from this community you will gather information and >>experience relevant to the type of diving you are doing.....my trimix >>instructor came from my dive community.....and what he teaches me gets, >sorry >>guy, but you know this anyway, gets run thru my dive community....a person >has >>no business going into 'technical' until he or she has created a strong >>foundation for themselves by going diving and having found that >community..... >> >> >> >> >> >>op the >>-- >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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