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sorry, hit send before I was done


>Who created her *perceived risk* attitude? Did she pull it out of thin air?
see above
>
>Who's community was she part of and what messages about the risks did she
>receive from it?
it is people like you that keep trying stir the pot and create confusion that
hides the message of safety
>
>The dive lists? Wrolf's friends and neighbors? Mine? Neither of us had any
>contact with her. Neither of us recommends specific diving
>techniques/equipment. None of us go around dick-waving and bragging that we
>are the perfect specimens, the best in the world, accident-free, perfect
>safety record, done it all better/deeper/farther than anyone else can/hopes
>to; never claiming to be the authorities, the know-it-alls, the "real men",
>the baddest, tuffest, bravest, boldest. None of us have *ever* said we have
>taken the risk out of this kind of diving. Is that what you refer to as
>your group's "safety message"?
no but you do far moredangerous things like trying to hide the "safety
message" you are no better than a street thug and a weak one at that
>
>Who was around her -- who were her peers/friends/info sources that helped
>form her opinions? Who would you ordinarily say is responsible for a friend
>going off half-cocked, over-amped, only partially or uninformed, going far
>beyond her actual skills/experience? Again, is that what you refer to as
>your group's (her peer group's) "safety message"?
see above  btw did I tell you yet that you are full of shit
>
>The impression I get -- from what you guys put on the list -- is that you
>all were her first source and her greatest influence before she even got on
>the boat that day.
see above, they never had the pleasure of meeting her.
>
>But who blames *everyone else* for her demise?
>
>If the shoe fits, Dan, wear it. And if it's uncomfortable for you, don't
>try to change it for a jack boot. You may be able to kick my ass and the
>asses of 90% of people on the diving lists. But I'd still be right -- and
>you'd still be wrong.
the shoe does not fit Dan
no you are very wrong
>
>Just my opinion.
and a poor one at that


it is shit like you that keeps people away from this list and from learning
the safe ways of doing things, lets do all the newer divers a big favor, quit
trying to hide and confuse the message, it does not make you a big man to
fight this, just the opposite. you really have given me a most unfavorable
view of you. but do not worry I will not dive with you, as I would not want to
risk diving with someone that I place in the same boat as derick. 

if you have any questions please ask, 

alan pelstring
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