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In a message dated 8/28/98, 7:41:41 AM, kens@ac*.ne* writes: <<This is a very important point that seperates us from them chief. I remember the first time I came down to your place (to pick up my scooter), Ralph Fenton stopped by and you gave him the "Doing it Right live" rendition and showed him all the gear and tricks. At that time I didn't know who Ralph was, but I thought it was cool that you took the time to show someone that obviously wasn't involved in the project everything we do and how we do it. >> That's right I remember when Ralph told me about going to George's house a few years back. He was glad that he got the attention and then he changed all his gear over (Ralph was my cave instructor several years ago). George also had me over and went over my gear as well. He didn't ask for anything in return and he was very helpful. Now I am at the pool three days a week working out with the master swimmers. Yes it was hard at first as these guys are super fast but as long as your committed they let you in the club. As for christopher brown's comment that George said he took the risk out of cave diving that is bullshit. It was Sheck who said that about George. Chris you need to cut the convoluted bullshit. These last few post from you were really off the wall as in tangent to nowhere land. Maybe this Mr. Mom thing has gotten to you because your beginning to reason like a three year old. Even Aristotle had you pegged 350 B.C. On Sophistical Refutations by Aristotle, Written 350 B.C.E Translated by W. A. Pickard-Cambridge "Let us now discuss sophistic refutations, i.e. what appear to be refutations but are really fallacies instead. We will begin in the natural order with the first. That some reasonings are genuine, while others seem to be so but are not, is evident. This happens with arguments, as also elsewhere, through a certain likeness between the genuine and the sham. For physically some people are in a vigorous condition, while others merely seem to be so by blowing and rigging themselves out as the tribesmen do their victims for sacrifice;... ....In the same way both reasoning and refutation are sometimes genuine, sometimes not, though inexperience may make them appear so: for inexperienced people obtain only, as it were, a distant view of these things. For reasoning rests on certain statements such that they involve necessarily the assertion of something other than what has been stated, through what has been stated: refutation is reasoning involving the contradictory of the given conclusion..." Ray LaTulippe -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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