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From: "John R. Rose" <rose@cs*.sc*.ed*>
Subject: Re: Re: "Pull!"
To: deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or* (Richard Pyle)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 16:36:13 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: RLatulip@ao*.co*, rose@CS*.Sc*.ED*, kirvine@sa*.ne*, techvid@ne*.co*,
     cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com, rebreather@nw*.co*
Rich,

You seem to have missed the point of our answer.
Our point is that your's was not a meaningful question.
The fact that you are able to pose such a question
without collapsing into a fit of laughter points
out that you are a true innocent. I find that touching.
There are too many cynics in this world. ;-)
However, I am still surprised that even being as far away as Hawaii
you would be so out of touch with the reality of what is involved in
these types of dives to even for the moment imagine that Stone's group
of vagrants will do anything other than litter Wakulla park.

What really has me puzzled is why you bothered to ask this question at
all? You are not a cave diver and are not directly involved with usdct,
at least not to my knowledge. Is this just idle curiosity? 

-John

> Ray,
> 
> You and John both seemed to have missed my question.  I did not say that
> they will succeed, nor did I ask if they would succeed. The accusations that
> I have "no clue" (whether or not those accusations are correct) really have
> no bearing on my question (one need not necesarily have a clue to ask a
> question - in fact, it usually goes the other way around). The question I
> asked was,  what would the reaction be *if* they succeed.  Granted, some you
> guys probably see that as a trick question, because you are so utterly
> convinced that success on their part is impossible.  I can accept that you
> have this perspective.  Unfortunately, that doesn't help answer my question.
> 
> Brent answered with what I thought was an excellent answer, which is (if I
> read it right) he is very dubious that they will succeed (certainly fair
> enough), but if they do succeed, he will continue on again next year in any
> event.  To me, this says that Brent is not in this game for the ego; he is
> in this game because he enjoys diving in caves. His real motivations are
> further supported by his general abstinence from the public politics,
> despite his participation in the most extreme of dives.  The same patterns
> seem to hold for JJ as well.  Although he has not told me what his reaction
> will be, my guess based on private conversations in the past is that, like
> Brent, he will wish them luck, and continue on next year regardless of
> whether or not the USDCT is successful.
> 
> George answered with the somewhat spine-tingling and ominous "I never quit,
> will stop at nothing to win , and have no physical or mental constraints on
> what I am willing to do".  I'm not really sure exactly how to interpret
> that, especially since George's "competitors" don't see this as a
> "competition", so by definition, they have no intentions of "winning".
> 
> At this point, however, I simply have too much to keep me busy this weekend,
> so I don't think I'll continue to play the game this time.  The answer to my
> question is not important enough to me to wade through all the nonesense,
> especially when the answer will be self-evident, one way or the other, come
> January.
> 
> Aloha,
> Rich
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RLatulip@ao*.co* [mailto:RLatulip@ao*.co*]
> > Sent: Friday, August 21, 1998 6:22 AM
> > To: rose@CS*.Sc*.ED*
> > Cc: deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*; kirvine@sa*.ne*;
> > techvid@ne*.co*; cavers@ca*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com;
> > rebreather@nw*.co*
> > Subject: Re: Re: "Pull!"
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/21/98, 9:21:54 AM, rose@CS*.Sc*.ED* writes:
> > <<
> > >From your comment it is clear that like many people, you really have no
> > clue about doing seriously long bottom times in a deep cave. This type
> > of diving takes exceptional physical and mental stamina and
> > self-confidence. >>
> >
> > Obviously Rich thinks of it as just another one of hisdeep ocean
> > dives.  Rich
> > you don't just swim up a couple of hundred ft and switch over if your
> > rebreather has a problem.
> >
> > You swim 18,000 ft first!
> >
> > Ray Latulippe
> >
> 
> 

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