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Mr. Bill your off on a tangent again. .. ---------- > From: Bill Bott <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*> > To: CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co*; wrolf@co*.ne* > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Re: Richard Roost: Dead on the Doria (YOU WON'T BELIVE WHY!!) > Date: Wednesday, August 19, 1998 12:50 AM Well Mr. Bill I only found 14 spelling mistakes in your statement and Zero @ 4 > Zero, > > In a calm and rational manner lets revisit Richard's death and what I know > about Richard's diving habits. Mr. Bill this is the wrong Trimix found in Richard's double's, and marked on the content sticker. > Richard's gas, taking worst case numbers, was 19/30 Trimix. Although > hotter than I would recommend for the dive it was not excessively so. In > round numbers the PPO2 was 1.4 and the END just over 130'. There was no > sign of panic and no indication that his stage bottles were charged Mr. Bill the stage bottle information is not confirmed as of yet. (both > pressure gauges read 0 psi and the valves were off). Later inspection > showed both stage bottles contained an appropriate amount of gas for the > anticipated deco. The EAN 36% was charged to 3000 psi and his O2/Ean80, I > was unable to determine the contents but believe it was 80 based on personal > knowledge of Richard and his habits, was charged to 2200 psi. I did not > feel the need to press for the analyses of the deco tanks in this case > because the contents appear to have no bearing in this incident. No gear > was out of place or disturbed in any indicating convulsion. The reg. was in > his mouth and the bite tabs were not damaged in a manner suggesting > convolution. For these reasons I feel comfortable ruling out convolution. > That does not mean that it could not have happened. I also feel that > although still passable without convolutions Oxtox could be ruled out. I > know that it is possible to tox and not convulse it is also very rare. CO2 > retention would also cause the onset of Oxtox long before causing one to > black out as a sole reason for this incident so that too was ruled out. Mr. Botts the toxicology report showed no Dramamine in his system. Mr. Botts was sent this information on 8/13/98. > Now enter the Dramamine..... My choosing of the word "appears" was not > accidental or without cause. I still do not have hard proof that Richard > did take Dramamine before the dive. I also have no creditable evidence > that he did not. However, adding the information, that Richard apparently > took Dramamine, into the mix we get a reasonable explanation as to what > could have happened. By using a drug that warns against taking with > sedatives and diving to and END of approximately 130' I don't feel it is > great stretch to conclude that Richard could well have passed out, "fallen > asleep", as a result or mixing a drug (Dramamine) and a sedative > (hyperbaric Nitrogen). This was and at this time still is my conclusion > based on the information I, and others in my behalf, gathered. > > If you disagree or have other conclusions based on facts that you have > gathered I would be interested in hearing them. If you have other facts > please provide the source. I don't want a bunch of rumors and guesses > without factual basis cluttering my mailbox. > > The Dramamine debate will continue under a different topic (but not for long). > > At 12:14 PM 8/18/98 , CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co* wrote: > >In your first post about Richard's death being attributed to falling asleep > You > >did not mention me, it's true. Upon reading your post I found it a far > stretch > >of the envelope of reason that Dramamine caused him to fall so fast asleep as > >to drown. So I replied (with a polite post) with some of my experiences > with > >Dramamine and diving. That is when I started to get the nasty Emails about me > >personally. There is no reason for that. Disagree with me Fine, just as I > >disagreed with you, while I allowed that we do not know all of the effects of > >medications underpressure. There is no reason to get personal or vindictive > >with me. I always keep my posts calm and sane. I would expect the same from > >other when responding to me. Claiming fat slobbery and likening to take drugs > >while diving, detracts from the issue at hand. It is ugly and uncalled for. > >While I reply to these messages, I do not reply in kind but try to use > reason. > >Disagreeing with some one if fine, no need for the abuse. > > > >Captain Zero > >John Jack > >Member E.D.B.A. > > > Bill (aquadart) Bott > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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