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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 15:22:03 -0400
From: "Katherine V. Irvine" <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: wrolf@co*.ne*
CC: ahall@di*.co*, cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Name That Lie, Re: tripple this Re: CONTINUOUS REBREATHER DEATHS was Re: Death was a Bigot
I have not seen this ( Gilliam's page, but will look into it), but I can
assure you that I stopped using any form of drugs, including alcohol,
many, many years ago. How about the people who are making the
accusations? Anyone care to comment. I will not, but those who live in
South Florida, step on up and maybe you can tell us the real score here.

 Perhaps you  ( and Gilliam , if indeed he really said this) are
refering to the fact that I am a Director of the House of Hope, the
largest non-profit drug and alchohol rehab in this country. We also
treat AIDS patients, like my boy Heseltine's clinic, and we have other
sections for specific social problems, and operate under many State ,
Local, and Federal Grants. Perhaps you also think I am gay, have AIDS,
am homeless, or am a single mother with children in rehab?

 Did he mention that I was a Stephen Minister at Christ Church following
two years of training in weekly three hour classsroom sessions to be
able to deal with all kinds of people's problems and get them the
available help they need? Would you know what to do with a drug addicted
pedophile whose wife is divorcing him? I do - I deal with shit like
that.  What do you do for the community, mister "Holocost" Liberal? You
obviously used the Book of Levi to wrap your schmuck in - go back and
read it again before you pull crap like this .

My how the "liberal" talk , and how the "conservatives" ACT. I guess you
did not read Gilliam's article in the magazine before the one where he
decided that I am a bad guy, in which he discussed my involvement with
the House of Hope and Stepping Stones. In fact, Mitch Skaggs , who did
the interview said, "George, we have to be careful how we put this, as
people will think you are a drug addict". I assured him that this made
no difference, I was "well qualified" to be a director of a drug rehab,
and make my feelings about drug abuse ( including alchohol and
cigarettes ) VERY clear. I am also well qualified to deal with all kinds
of social services and problems, Government agencies, and the
intricacies of helping run an organiztion that has contracted to operate
multiple treatment facilities for the hospital districts , police, and
other Government agencies who do not want to handle the reality out
there - IN MY SPARE TIME, which I have so much of.

It would be typical for a guy like Gilliam ( and a pussy like you )to be
writhing around in the gutter of his mind with something like this,
being unable to deal with my complaints about him ( now looking like a
very good call on my part ) on a rational level, and obviously severely
outgunned in the achievement and track record department. It would be
typical that somebody like you to be involved with this "cause", and it
would be typical that you would be so desperate yourself as to think
that taking a shot at the "big guy" will somehow elevate your stature
from Village Idiot of Techdiver, to something higher up.

Let me asure you it will not. People like me have an intensity and a
grip on life that those like you will never understand or feel. You
represent the worst in all of us, and seeing that causes the reaction of
loathing you get from me and others - it is a glimse into just how awful
it could be for any of us, and it scares me - just a minor shortage of
one chemical or another , and I could be just like you.


Wrolf Courtney wrote:
> 
> Katherine V. Irvine wrote:
> >
> > Wrolf Courtney wrote:
> > >
> > >  your
> > > lies,
> >
> >   Wrolf, name one lie
> 
> Well, I assume that you have no evidence for your accusation of 50
> electronics
> failures on the Inspiration rebreathers.
> 
> > Skip the drug sodden mind excuse.
> 
> Huh?  Ibuprofen doesn't do that to me.  I cannot take codeine - I wind
> up in the ER if I do.
> 
> Since you open the drug sodden door though, could you clear something
> up.  Are you a (former) cocaine user and addict?
> 
> Brett Gilliam accuses you of it every day, on his web site.  At this
> point, I am inclined to believe him.  You both clearly have vigorous
> attorneys, and the only reason that I can imagine after all this time
> for you not to have forced him to take it down, is that it is true.
> 
> And the only reason that I ask you about it (even though you have thrown
> your hat into the ring as a public figure in the diving community), is
> the frequency with which you accuse other of illegal drug use.
> 
> > Bill Mee had you pegged as
> > defective from day one - another good call by both of us.
> 
> Yes, I am a child of the Holocaust.  If you mean something else by that,
> then say it.
> 
> > I told you
> > never to write me agsin, and he spotted why.
> 
> But you keep writing me.
> 
> >    Now you need to take the ridiculous web page down, and shut that big
> > mouth - you are exposed.
> 
> Aargh....ROFL...Aargh...   It only hurts when I laugh.
> 
> --
> Wrolf
> 
> Wrolf's Wreck: http://www.concentric.net/~Wrolf


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