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From: Ranjit Chagar <ranjit@cs*.co*>
To: "'Dan Volker'" <dlv@ga*.ne*>,
     "'wrolf@co*.ne*'"
    
Cc: "'Tech Diver'" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "'Bill Mee'" <wwm@sa*.ne*>
Subject: RE: "Dangerous on the Net".
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:05:33 +0800
Wrolf,

Well said. I also have to agree with mikes comments. Given the kind of
diving that we are discussing here, if a person has to be told exactly
what to do, and then does not question it, is this the kind of person
you want to be diving with? I would hope (and it is a fervent hope at
that) that the people we are talking about have enough sense to listen
to the viewpoints and then make a EDUCATED decision. 

Me personally, I will keep listening to what the Wrolf Courtneys and
John Hanzels out there have to say, and I'll also listen to what
George/WKPP and DIR diving say. In my opinion they have a lot of good
things to say. And then I will think about what works for me, what
constitutes a safe dive and what will ensure I live to a ripe old age.

Ranjit

P.S. Sorry about not providing covering fire for your retreat wrolf, the
dive boat was serving hot coffee, and it had been a long dive.

P.P.S. Pia sends her regards.

P.P.P.S. Pia also asks that you don't repeat the story she told you
about the vienna boys choir whilst you were taking heavy fire.

>----------
>From: 	Wrolf Courtney[SMTP:wrolf@co*.ne*]
>Sent: 	13 August 1998 03:56
>To: 	Dan Volker
>Cc: 	'Tech Diver'; 'Bill Mee'
>Subject: 	Re: "Dangerous on the Net".
>
>Dan Volker wrote:
>> If you were in a group of 20 persons, huddled under cover, as terrorists
>> sprayed gunfire above your heads, how would you feel about a moron next to
>> you, urging the group to stand up, out of cover, and run away----and you
>> knowing full well this would put all in the line of fire, causing members
>>of
>> your group to die immediately.....would you defend this moron's right to
>> express his opinion???
>
>I have no idea how you even heard about this incident.
>
>But there were only about six of us, not twenty.  And I still think Pia
>(I think that was her name) was right when she said to go forward.  (Pia
>was the fair haired young Dutch woman that I had the hots for.)
>
>With the concave hill, plus the flat bunker, the bullets were actually a
>lot further overhead once I got in close.  But I could certainly hear
>them.  Like they say in the Clint Eastwood movie "Heartbreak Ridge", you
>never forget the sound of an AK-47 aimed at you.
>
>I had already figured out after we were all in cover, that the long
>breaks to change magazines, and the continuing overs, meant that it was
>probably target practice by some of the reservists on the kibbutz.  And
>that is what it was.
>
>But some loudmouth had to come forward.
>
>Wrolf
>
>Wrolf's Wreck: http://www.concentric.net/~Wrolf
>
>P.S.  At the request of Ken Sallot <kens@ac*.ne*>, I am
>"keep[ing] this shit off of Cavers."
>
>P.P.S.  I am neither brave, nor is this an attempt to claim some such. 
>In fact the whole thing scared me so much, that for a long time
>afterward, I would do things like jump behind walls and try to drag my
>fiancee with me, if an electric line in the street crackled and banged.
>
>P.P.P.S.  We could not retire laterally, because the minefield stretched
>on both sides.  Also it was totally overgrown, and the escarpment slope
>of the Golan Heights.  We could not retire to the rear, because then the
>overs would stop being, well, over.  And there was less cover.
>
>P.P.P.P.S. I married Debbie, who I met later.  I wonder what happened to
>Pia?
>
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