George,
You appear to have run out of things to say and are repeating yourself.  You
have already told us that your diving, while beyond the reach of anyone
else, is mere child's play to you.  As for shutting your mouth, it is not so
much that I personally want you to, but I am fascinated by why you yourself
are apparently incapable of recognizing all you are achieving is to make
yourself look bad and your advice be ignored.  If what you were saying was
adding to your aims or achievments then speaking out would be sensible but
when it is detracting from them it would seem to be better to let them speak
for themselves or at least change to a more effective approach.

To those like me who only know you through the rebreather list your posts
appear to be a form of public ego mastrubation.  It may feel good to you but
it doesn't do much for anybody else.  It does, however, get you a lot of
attention which I suppose is what public masturbation is all about.

Walter Starck


-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine V. Irvine <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
To: Walter Starck <wstarck@oz*.co*.au*>
Cc: pH <heseltine@ea*.ne*>; cavers@ca*.co* <cavers@ca*.co*>;
techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; rebreather@nw*.co*
<rebreather@nw*.co*>
Date: Tuesday, August 04, 1998 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Mocow on the Hudson - the "----"of Death


>Walter, one has to ask, "Why are the Starks of the world so interested
>in me keeping my mouth shut"? The answer, Walter, is well understood by
>anyone who has observed me for years, and you can ask the widows and the
>fatherless kids for the short version.
>
>The fact is, Walter, the diving is nothing to me. It is for me as
>walking or breathing is for you - just that easy, and it means nothing ,
>nothing at all. Do it right and it is a walk in the park. I like to
>point that out .
>
>It should be that way for everyone, not the "high risk" behavior that
>you guys envision.
>
>Walter Starck wrote:
>>
>> George,
>> I am not really accusing you of anything but I have pointed out some
issues
>> which are implicit in your own posts.  What you reveal of yourself in
your
>> attacks on others is far from impressive.  You would be vastly more
>> effective if you kept your mouth closed and let your diving speak for
>> itself.
>>
>> Walter Starck
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Katherine V. Irvine <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
>> To: Walter Starck <wstarck@oz*.co*.au*>
>> Cc: pH <heseltine@ea*.ne*>; cavers@ca*.co* <cavers@ca*.co*>;
>> techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; rebreather@nw*.co*
>> <rebreather@nw*.co*>
>> Date: Tuesday, August 04, 1998 8:35 AM
>> Subject: Mocow on the Hudson - the "----"of Death
>>
>> >Walter, I hear you are accusing me of being gay, and Heseltine is
>> >accusing me of being homophobic. Which is it? Try neither.
>> >
>> >I also hear you accuse me of "enjoying body recoveries". I can assure
>> >you this is not the case, but I can tell you that I get paid for this
>> >kid of thing when I have to do it, and I would entertain a volume
>> >discount if you were to get back in the rebreather business.
>> >
>> >
>> >Walter Starck wrote:
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: pH <heseltine@ea*.ne*>
>> >> To: kirvine@sa*.ne* <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
>> >> Cc: cavers@ca*.co* <cavers@ca*.co*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> >> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; rebreather@nw*.co*
>> >> <rebreather@nw*.co*>
>> >> Date: Monday, August 03, 1998 11:32 PM
>> >> Subject: Re:The (L)edge of Death
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >In a message dated 8/02/98 8:36:02 AM, pH wrote:
>> >> >>So you want scary and caves?? Then come along with our dive team to
>> >> >Vanuatu ...>Ask the l>ocal, who was dragged and left for dead on a
>> ledge -
>> >> >by a huge >saltwater crocodile.>
>> >> >
>> >> >At 12:25 PM 8/02/98 +1000, Walter Starck wrote:
>> >> >>Pete..There are no salt crocs in Vanuatu....
>> >>
>> >> I don't recall saying anything about salt crocs in Vanuatu.  Where did
>> this
>> >> come from?
>> >> Walter Starck
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
>

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